Inforecord price for SRM originated orders - CLASSIC scenario
Hi! Few months' back, I have posted some questions re the behaviour of the price on the PO when orders are generated out of SRM in a classic scenarioI have just completed testing and ended up with the following results:
1. If I create a shopping cart with material number for direct consumption and have a vendor defaulted from vendor list, the price reflected in the PO is from the inforecord. So, effectively, I could have $1000 on my shopping cart but PO showing $950 as this is the value in the inforecord. The $1000 comes from the material condition record in SRM (extracted via EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES).
2. If I create a shopping cart with material number for STOCK and have a vendor defaulted from vendor list, the price reflected in the PO is that maintained on the shopping cart. Is this behaviour correct? Note that in this case, the master PO is in SRM even in a classic scenario and I wonder whether it is because of this that the pricing behaviour is different.
Other observation: For stock purchase, I know that if I have multiple vendors (from vendor list and some from inforecords) and if I picked one of the vendors, the price will be adopted at the point of shopping cart so that the user has a 'confirmed' view of the price and there should be no discrepancies of prices between the shopping cart and the PO.
Can someone please shed some lights as to what should the standard behaviour be?
Cheers!
SF
hello SF
rule :- shopping cart price is a material price and it comes from your report and prices are stored in COMMPR01 .( EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES BY this report).
really the prices are picked from source of suooly like infor record , vendor list or contract while creating the purchase order.
i create a shopping cart for 100 USD since material price is 100 usd but PO created for 75 USD.
since contract material price is 75 usd.
With regards to using report EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES to upload the
prices from the backend system into EBP. Please refer to the online
documentation of this report:
'Under "Price reference per product", you can specify if the average
value of all valuation groups/plants is to be calculated or if the
valuation price from the first valuation group/plant is to be used. If
the average value is to be calculated, choose "Average of all prices".
If you wish to use the first valuation price, choose "Use first price".
The standard setting calls for the "Average of all prices" to be
calculated.'
This is how this report works. If you want to take another price you
have to change the coding according your requirements.
You will need to debug into the backend through
RFC-Call for backend-table MBEW
CALL FUNCTION 'RFC_READ_TABLE' DESTINATION iv_rfcdest
in FORM read_mbew and see the select statement that reads this table.
The report is taking exactly one price out of the data
package extracted out of R/3. If this could also be a moving average
price is more a question which kind of data is extracted out of of R/3
and how the R/3 config looks like - and if this moving average is in thelist.
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what is the setting here
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https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/SRM/Howtoanalyzethefollow-ondocumentdetermination
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<u>You have created sources of supply. These could be:
-> Contract items in Enterprise Buyer
-> Vendor-specific prices
For this, you have created Product Linkages in the SRM System with vendor-specific prices via the SAP Menu Master Data -> Products -> Process Products.
-> Entries in the vendor list of Enterprise Buyer
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○ If you want the products to be delivered exclusively by external vendors, the system performs sourcing directly at the external vendors without evaluating internal locations. For this, SAP APO requires corresponding purchasing records, delivery plans and contracts that are transferred from SAP ECC.
○ If you only want to have products delivered by external vendors occasionally, that is to say, if you are unable to deliver the product from your own warehouse stock, choose an ATP profile in which both internal and external vendors are evaluated. In this case, the external vendor is treated like an internal location in SAP APO, and is integrated into location determination in the rule-based availability check.
You can also choose the vendor manually. If you have already specified a vendor as the source of supply in SAP CRM, SAP SCM does not carry out any further sourcing. In this case, SAP SCM merely checks the validity of this vendor and confirms the requirement in its full amount if the vendor is valid.
For more information, see SAP Library for SAP SCM at SAP Advanced Planning and Optimization (SAP APO) -> Global Available-to-Promise (Global ATP) -> Advanced Availability Check Methods -> Third-Party Order Processing in the Global ATP -> Sourcing in Third-Party Order Processing.
<u>Refer these links for more details -></u>
<u>Assignment of Existing Sources of Supply</u>
<b>http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/25/40f23a53cd0e04e10000000a11402f/content.htm</b>
<b>http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/55/4af548688211d4977e0004ac962ee6/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm50/helpdata/en/fa/84944279c0c66ae10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/18/db183d30805c59e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/63/36f2323326da4da25d9d0a06f550a0/frameset.htm</b>
<u>Processing Contracts</u>
<b>http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/43/0f234a9e242a8be10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/5a/4cc5376848616ae10000009b38f889/frameset.htm</b>
<u>See also</u><b>SAP Note 519794 EBP: Replication of Materials exclusively for Purchasing
SAP Note 505030 (Restrictions for the integration of external requirements).</b>
Regards
- Atul
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