Initial button state in motion menu
I have a 5 sec motion menu and I want the active button state to delay highlight until the motion is done. I did not set a default button hoping it wouldn't select while playing but that didn't work. Is there a work around?
I just did this in a recent project. You have to use a menu overlay, then set the motion menu’s loop point at 5 seconds. The buttons will be invisible until you hit the loop point. The menu will continue to loop, but won’t include the first five seconds.
I could not get it to work with DVDSP’s built-in buttons.
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Is it possible to hide the buttons on a motion menu til AFTER the loop point?
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I add the button graphics into my background movie at the loop point. Then, I create an overlay file in Photoshop and add it to the menu? It will then only activate at the loop point, which works well since that's where the text would appear in the movie?
That's right!
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I'm having some trouble with motion menu resolution.
I'm working on a project that consists of six short video clips. As first play, I'm using an asset that contains all six video's. After this, I want to introduce a motion menu showing the six clips - allowing the viewer to watch certain clips again and again.
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After reading the manual chapter you mentioned and a chapter it refers to, I decided that my menu does need to be rendered. It said in the manual that changing the final rendering from hardware to software should result in a better result. I tried that and I do think the resolution is marginally better - still no good though!
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Hello
Every time I create a motion menu the play buttons have a fuzzy outline. I really don't like this and would love to know how to avoid it as it looks really bad and not crisp.
Here's how i do it:
1) I create the motion menu in AEX and add in the button here. I have the button coming in about 5 seconds after the start to give a delayed effect and this will therefore be the loop point I set in DVDSP.
2) I then export out a Photoshop layers file from AEX and then bring this file into Photoshop to make the overlay. I'm not sure if I'm doing this step correctly as I then go Image/adjustments/levels and make the play button black
3) I then make the menu an .m2v and bring this and the overlay .jpg file into DVDSP.
4) When I select the play button the edges go fuzzy. This particular PLAY button was the text PLAY in white, with a black outline. Maybe this black outline had something to do with it?? I've also had heart shaped buttons for example and this does the same thing.
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</crashreport>Finally I have found a workaround. I set all the motion menu's to no animation and build the projetc. Afterward, I put the animation on one menu and I render it. It is very long but it works. now my problem is elsewhere. On my output BD, some menu's only have a few second of animation before they loop. in some cases i dont even have a second. I have rebuilt my project and I have the same effetc but Encore seams to have put loop points at random.
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Hey all. I have a motion menu where the art director has the txt built on screen on a skewed angle. So the text looks like its angled 3d into the page slightly. Its subtle but creates a nice visual effect.
The problem is the square boxes that encase the overlay highlight (shape to the left of each text) and button text itself can't extend over the entire text because of the skewed angle of it. Not a big deal for a DVD player with just up and down functionality needed, but for a computer with mouseovers, its an issue.
Is it possible to have invisible buttons that when rolled over or "selected" it actually toggles the hightlight state of a different button.
Hope that makes sense. I don't believe its possible but I thought I would ask. Maybe there's a way to script the button state in some way (cross platform).
Thanks!
Fishhi,
well it depends what you want to do with the text, but if you make the text in Motion it will be vector based so you have more control over resizing and you can use parameter based animation presets on it. If you make it in photoshop first it will rasterised, so you have no control on editing it, resizing, changing font, and you cant use the behaviours
hth
adam -
Menu buttons dont work until menu itself loops
i have a button on the menu, and connects to a video track. when i simulate the project, the button works fine, but when i try a burned dvd in a set top player, the button won't work until the menu itself has reached the end and starts over again.....???
You can control the moment when the buttons overlay appears (activation) changing the Loop Point time. You have 3 time settings in the Inspector for your motion menu: Start, Loop and End points. With these settings you can manage how to play the background movie in your menu.
To make your buttons activate inmediatly when the motion menu starts, you must set the same time setting in Start and Loop points. Let me know you current settings for these three points if you found problems.
From DVDSP Manual
Loop Point
You can use the Loop Point setting to set a frame different from the starting frame to use when you choose Loop as the At End setting. By default, the Loop setting is the same as the Start setting. When you adjust the Loop setting, you are choosing the frame that is jumped to once the end frame is reached. This allows you to have a looping background with a beginning section—for example, a fade up from black or a transition from another menu—that only plays the first time through. If there is audio assigned to the menu, it automatically follows the video as it loops.
This setting also defines when the button highlights appear—the viewer cannot navigate the menu’s buttons until the loop point is reached. Additionally, the Loop Point setting controls the video used for the menu’s tile in the Graphical tab.
Alberto -
Radio button state on region load...
Is there a way to set the radio button state (click event) on a region load? The default value of 0 (read-only) works when clicked, but doesn't when the page initially loads, and it's like the button click event needs to take place at the region load time. The values are 1 and 0 set statically if that matters, and the hidden value does not get changed when the radio button with the value of 1 is selected.
The button makes the button visible when 'edit' is selected and the button disappears when 'read-only' is selected which is the expected behavior.
I do have a condition on the 'save' button for the value to not be zero which is based on the value from the radio button.
My gut says it'll be a region header attribute or Java Script sort of thing and I've not found anything so far, and I'm hoping there's an Apex guru out there that has a recommendation.
Thanks in advance!
MattI used some source I found on Denes' web site and added the call, but it didn't yield the result I was hoping for.
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$s('P8_RADIO_BUTTON','0');
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I'm quite new to the Java Script in Apex, so if I hosed this up, please let me know. Also, does that set the click event on or does that just set the value? The reason I ask is with a 0 or 1 it yielded the same result.
Thanks!
Matt -
For all of you who are having Motion Menu render problems - try this
Just humour me for a minute.
I have another Sonic application, and a known bug in the Motion Menu rendering applies to 29.97DF projects only.
IE, NTSC.
Often the video in a motion menu will fail to mux.
There are workarounds though.
1 - Make sure your GOP structure is 15 at most
2 - Make certain the frame length of your video file is divisible by the GOP structure. IE, it must be a multiple of 15 frames.
3 - if these both fail, reduce the bitrate of the video 500kbps at a time until it muxes. Most will work at 7,000, some need to be 6,000 and there are even times when you need to go as low as 4000.
Try it - Encore uses a Sonic Authorcore, so it's worth a look.>Are you saying that NTSC 29.97 divided by 15 is okay?
Not really.
What I am saying is that your movie frame length should be divisible by the GOP structure with a GOP of 15.
With NTSC video, you can have GOP lengths
i up to
18, but it is not mandatory to go to 18 - 15 is a perfectly acceptable figure. You could use a GOP of 12 if you really wanted to. What this means is typically the number of frames between I-Frames.
MPEG-2 encoding (AKA "Moving Pictures by Educated Guesswork") P & B frames work something like this:
i P-frames provide more compression than I-frames because they take advantage of the data in the previous I-frame or P-frame. I-frames and P-frames are called reference frames. To generate a P-frame, the previous reference frame is reconstructed, just as it would be in a TV receiver or DVD player. The frame being compressed is divided into 16 pixel by 16 pixel macroblocks. Then, for each of those macroblocks, the reconstructed reference frame is searched to find that 16 by 16 macroblock that best matches the macroblock being compressed. The offset is encoded as a "motion vector." Frequently, the offset is zero. But, if something in the picture is moving, the offset might be something like 23 pixels to the right and 4 pixels up. The match between the two macroblocks will often not be perfect. To correct for this, the encoder computes the strings of coefficient values as described above for both macroblocks and, then, subtracts one from the other. This "residual" is appended to the motion vector and the result sent to the receiver or stored on the DVD for each macroblock being compressed. Sometimes no suitable match is found. Then, the macroblock is treated like an I-frame macroblock. The processing of B-frames is similar to that of P-frames except that B-frames use the picture in the following reference frame as well as the picture in the preceding reference frame. As a result, B-frames usually provide more compression than P-frames. B-frames are never reference frames.
In short, the I-Frame is the full description reference frame. A P frame is also a reference frame but describes the difference between the last I-Frame & itself. A good analogy is when you are on the telephone & describing what you see to a friend. The initial background description (The street, the sky, what you can see etc) would be an I-Frame. Then you describe a person walking down the street - that would be your P-Frames, as you are only describing the i changes
in the scene.
The bitrate can also affect things - I mentioned this too, and if a motion menu will not mux, first make sure that the film length is divisible by the GOP, and that the GOP is 15.
If it
i still
won't mux, drop the bitrate by factors of 500 until it will. -
I'm frustrated. In the menu, under Properties/Motion tab, I select the video that I want to set up as my motion menu and it's not working. All I see is a static image of the video clip. The audio works but not the video clip set for motion. Please help.
But what I remembered is using part of a clip in Encore and I had a hell of a job to, anyway, unsuccessfully work the sound out ok. This is when I made the exact clip I needed in PP and imported it in Encore. Then I set the loop for ever. This way you can have this clip playing till someone chose what to wathch. I guess it's nice to have some movie starting automatically when there are not to many choices from them.
When doing both a Motion Menu and also adding Audio to it, you will probably be best served to Export these as elemental streams from PrPro, and Import those into Encore.
I will create a new Sequence in the Project, and create the Video part to the intended Duration for the Motion Menu. Same for my Audio, and often do this in yet another Sequence. I will chose Audio source files with quite a bit of repetition during the Duration, and a fade-in/fade-out to it. I've marked a half-dozen SmartSound pieces, that work very well for this.
The Video is Exported as DV-AVI Type II, with NO Audio, and multiplexing is turned off.
The Audio is Exported as either PCM/WAV 48KHz 16-bit, or AC3 DD 5.1 SS through the SurCode encoder (plug-in that costs ~US$250) for Surround Sound, NO Video and no multiplexing, obviously.
Doing it this way solves a lot of potential problems. Muxed files can cause issues with En, though not always.
One caveat that I learned the hard way - if you have Audio on your Menu and also Button Transitions with Audio, you will want the Audio for each to match perfectly in format and CODEC. Otherwise you will probably loose the Audio in one, or the other. Last caveat - stay as far away from MP3's as you can. Some work, some just do not and the quality will already have suffered greatly. I only use these for some of my SFX in PrPro and never, never for anything else.
Good luck and don't forget to Render those Motion Menus... [Grin]
Hunt -
Change color in an Encore motion menu background
I am thinking about using an existing Encore menu but I would like to take the moving background which is shades of blue and change it to shades of another color. I've done this in PS for fixed backgrounds by right clicking and sending the menu to photoshop.
However I am not sure 100% on how to do this for a pre-built menu with motion? I assume it is some kind of workflow of adding the menu to an Encore project and then sending the video from that timeline (as a video track not a menu?) to Pre Pro and using color tools there to replace color, etc.....then rendering it with an appropriate codec and somehow marrying it back with the original menu buttons, etc. in Encore..
Just not sure how to make that all happen! Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
BJBBJB1You are on the right track. A Motion Menu uses a Video Asset (and maybe an Audio Asset too), for the motion.
All you have to do is create a Video Asset, or modify an existing one, Import that into Encore as an Asset, and then use the Pickwhip to link to that for the Motion Menu Background.
Once, those Video Assets for Motion Menus were WMV files, but in those days, Encore was ported for the PC only. Now, with X-platform capabilities, the format is M2v.
I would take the Motion Menu Background Video into PrPro, adjust the colors, and change it, in any way you need, then Export that for Import into Encore. If you have used a Menu Template, then there will be an existing Motion Menu Background Video already associated with it. Just use the Pickwhip to change that association.
Good luck,
Hunt -
DVD Burn Error: too much motion menu content yet not much.
hi
Keep getting this when i try to burn my DVD, can anyone advise?
+- The following warnings and errors were found during the validation of the current project:+
+- There seems to be too much motion menu content in your project. Correct this problem before you continue burning this project.+
Message was edited by: Logic ProPerhaps you can elaborate a bit more. How many menus do you have in the project? In the scenes menus how many motion buttons do you have? How many differen audio files are you using in the menus? Of the files you dropped into motion menus/buttons, how long are those clips? How long are the various audio files you are using? ? ? ? ?? ????? ???????????
I can't see your project so I have no idea what you are already using and if what you have is clearly excessive or not.
Patrick
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I am facing an issue where in the next level manager is not able to see the appraisal docs of employees. Follwing is the link that we found on SDN related to the same issue- Next higher level manager should see the appraisal docs of the employees Dur
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Hello evertbody I have a problem programming a channel, I'm using Portal 6.1 running under Applicatrion Server 7, also in this instance is running Identity Server. The channel must connecto to a utl using https, but URL.openConnection return a com.ip
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Lightroom om my ipad says trail after purchase, Lightroom on PC is working great, how do i fix this?