Initial window placement openbox

Hi all,
Whatever setting I'm using in openbox, my new windows are placed at the top-left corner of the screen. Hoewever, I have a dzen2-conky monitor-bar at the top of the screen with a height of approx 20px. Unfortunately, my new windows are placed with their title bar under the monitor-bar. I can move those windows only by pressing the ALT key and moving the mouse.
<placement>
<policy>Smart</policy>
<center>yes</center>
</placement>
How can I fix this so openbox is:
1. placing my new windows in the middle of the screen
or
2. placing the windows wherever it wants them, but not in the topmost 25 pixels of the screen
Last edited by Ibex (2009-10-28 15:07:35)

Sweet, that's what I was searching for in the #2 solution. Thanks
Edit; damn, this seems to work fine for maximized windows, but it does not work for new smaller windows like a terminal (Eterm in my case). This window is still placed in the top 20px of the screen .
Edit2; seems like Eterm is the only program having this issue anyway...
Edit3; damnit, it seems to be the Eterm theme that is forcing the window to spawn at 10px from the left and 10px from the top. Editting the Eterm theme was the solution.
Last edited by Ibex (2009-10-28 15:43:59)

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On the other hand, if you are calling the help file
programmatically from an application, there may be some scope for
controlling the position of the help window by using standard
Windows functions. This article provides a small amount of extra
information:
http://helpware.net/FAR/far_faq.htm#control
Pete

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