Initialisation option for source system in schedular tab

What initialisation option for system in schedular tab signifies? Does it acts as pointer and points to the last record loaded in cube or ods?

Hi....
Welcome to SDN..........
Initialisation option for source system in schedular tab........
shows to you all the init you made for a specific datasource/sourcesystem...if you find a row here, it means that the init channel is active and you can load delta for that specific flow.....
Initialization may with data transfer or without Data Transfer.......If you do with data transfer it will set the init flag............as well as it will fetch the data from set up table...........if you do without data transfer it will only set the init flag.....it will not fetch any records.........As soon as this init flag get set.......delta queue will get generated in the source system........after that any changes or new records will go to the delta queue.............So initialization load will be followed by delta load......
When you have to reinit, first of all you have to delete this row and then request a new initial load, otherwise the system cannot allow to perform a new init (with overlapping condition) if you don't deete the previous one....
Hope this helps
Regards,
Debjani.......

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Initialization option for source system in schedular tab

SAP BW Gurus:
Please help me with this question.
This is a new system setup. I used initilization option doing the two years of data loads. I loaded eight loads with each load for a quarter's data.
Then I found there are some loading issues with one load. So, I need to delete that load and reload again.
To do that, i need to delete that particular load in the initialization request.
When I highlighted that request and delete, there is a window pop up saying:" There are active init selections in source system for this data source. Therefore, only ALL init selections can be deleted at once."
If I choose "no", I couldn't delete that particular package. Then, just for the sake of trying, I click on "yes", then all the 8 initization requests are gone!!!
Now, I got two questions:
1. If all the requests are gone, does it mean, I have reload everything again for initilization, ?? (it will take days to do it!!) Now i have two years of data already in my cube and DSO. This is version 7. But I do need to schedule Delta process later.
2. If I have eight requests, am I able to delete only one of them?? What does the question i listed above mean?
Thanks so much, guys!!

Hi,
System maintains only one delta queue for a datasource irrespective of ...number of inits... which is done from the source system to the target system and this you can see in RSA7.
You can do init with data for any number number of selections but the delta for all those selections will be combined and will present in one queue.
If you delete one init request it will delete the whole delta queue as all these request share the same delta queue and therefore all the init selections will go off.
You should be careful when you do this.
Now since all the delta is lost and if you can find a way to load the lost delta like doing a full repair on created on or changed on date... then you can just as suggested...but on the safer side I would suggest to the repeat the process or as mentioned in the OSS notes.
Thanks
Ajeet

Initialisation options for source system

If I am in an InfoPackage and seleet the option "Initialisation options for source system" and have more than one entries, is there any way that I can delete just one of the entries? Thanks

Hi there as a test scenario I am trying to delete one entry but it deletes both giving a message as below pre deletion, what am I doing wrong? Thanks
There are active init selections in source system for this data source
Therefore, only ALL init selections can be deleted at once
Do you want to delete all init selections (all channels)?

Initialisation option for source system

Hi Gurus
Can anyone explain clearly about
Initialisation option for source system
Thanks in advance
Raj

Hi,
This option is used when you want to init / re-init delta loads from source system (R/3 or BW Datamart). You have to set-up your Initialization before you can run your deltas.If you have already deltas loaded or want to load deltas from source you have to do an init load. In case you have already loaded deltas you have to delete the existing Init Request from your data target and perform re-init.
You have two options Init with data transfer and without data transfer.
Init is just setting path for deltas to follow.
Steps for Re Init from R/3 to BW
1)Delete the contents of Application area 11 inRSA7 delta queue/LBWQ
2) Delete the setup table for the application 11 in LBWG
3) Delete the initialization information in BW , By deleting the 'initializing option for source system ' from infopackage(delta initialization).
4) Delete the PSA and data in Datatargets.
5) Fill the setup table for the application 11.
6) Execute the delta initialization infopackage for these Datasources.
Thanks,
JituK

Deletion of request from init option for source system

Hello Experts,
Iam using 3 IP.
IP for init load with data transder, IP for init load without data transfer & Delta.
now with data transfer IP is not used.
i trigered "without data transfer IP", then accidentally "triggered with data transfer IP".
then manually made the request red & deleted data by right clicking datasource-->manage & deleted all the requests(2) available.
now before i load init without data transfer request exists in "init option for source system".
when trying to delete IP
"There are active init selections in source system for this data source. Therefore, only ALL init selections can be deleted at once. Do you want to delete all init selections (all channels)?"
when i choose yes....it takes a long time & gives run_time error status.
Guys, this issue is solved.
I deleted the without data transder first.
now when I load delta, I got error.
"Job terminated in source system --> Request set to red"
regards
KV
Edited by: K V on Apr 10, 2009 2:16 PM

Hi KV.........
U r doing init without data transfer..............it means it will not pick any records...........it will just set the init pointer and along with that Delta queue will get generated.........after that whenever any changes will be done.........or any new records will come.......it will get reflected in the Delta queue.......
So next time when u run the delta load..........data will be fetched from the Delta queue...........
So check the delta queue.......it may happen that there r no new or changed records..................
So check............may be delta queue is 0..............
Also check the update mode for the datasource in LBWE(if Logistic datasource)............if the update mode is Queued delta or unserialized V3 update........then data will first get accumulated in the Extract queue(LBWQ) or update table respectively.............so to fetch records in the Delta queue u hav to schedule the V3 jobs in LBWE............otherwise Delta queue will be empty and fetched records will be 0........
Regards,
Debjani......

Initialization Flags deleted from Initialization options for Source System

Hi BW Experts,
We have loaded PCA data in Infocube last week with Fiscal Year/Period Selection Parameters like
001.2004 to 016.2004
001.2005 to 016.2005
001.2006 to 016.2006
001.2007 to 016.2050
So we got 4 Initialization flags in Initialization options for Source System in SCHEDULER.
After this we are running Deltas daily
Accidentally All Initialization Flags deleted from SCHEDULER yesterday that we did not know yesterday.
Deltas did not run today.
Please can anyone tell me the solution for this.
I have to run the Delta today. How can i get the yesterday records in my Data Target,
Thanks & Regards,
Anjali
Message was edited by:
Anjali

Hi Anjali,
Please delete the Init Request from your data target performed for Selection 001.2007 to 2050.
Also delete <b>only those deltas request</b> from your Data target <b>which were performed after the above mentioned Init.</b>
And then Re-Init with Selections on Fiscper - 001.2007 to 2050.
Thanks
CK
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Can I delete 'Initialization Options for Source System' in Process Chain?

Hi All,
Can I automate the process of deleting the 'Initialization Options for Source System' for Delta Init package? I need to include this step in a process chain, rather than deleting the init request manually.
Thanks,
Naveen.

Naveen,
As far as I know, nope. And it's logical, considering the Initialization is a "one time" process and not a repetitive one (unless you have to reinitialize, of course...)
Regards,
Luis

Initialization options for source system (message_type_x)

Hi All
My R3 source system is just connected to my BI, after the upgrade of R3. Now i saw in RSA7, all entries in RED. So i have deleted them manually in RSA7.
Now, in RSA1, I wanted to run the Init delta IPAKs for all those deleted datasources, when i open the IPAK to run, its giving me MESSAGE_TYPE_X dump. So i cant go to the menu --> scheduler --> initialisation options for IPAK.
I think i should have deleted from here than in RSA7 in R3. But now i cant even open the IPAK. The module name in the dump is RSM1_CHECK_FOR_DELTAUPD.
How can i resolve this issue ? Do i have to replicate the datasource in RSA1 as Source system is upgraded ( we actually replicated all metadata by rt clicking the source system).
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thx
venkat

hi,
check this link ..
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shikha

HELP: 0 from 0 records: Initialization Option of source system

I executed an 'Initialization option for source system' on the scheduler and no data is coming from the source system.
Steps taken:
1. Delete data from target DSO
2. Picked InfoPackage and selected it returns back 'Initialization option for source system' on the scheduler
3. Deleted the initialization setting
4. Executed InfoPackage
Result: "0 from 0 records" found. How do I fill the queue table in the source system if not records are available? T
5. I go to delete the request in the PSA to retry: "No data in the PSA".
This is to resolve a HIGH status ticket because I stopped delta process of other Infoproviders until this situation is resolved.
Can you provide detail steps to properly create a trigger delta data from R/3 from a "Initialization Option of source system". We have cancelled delta undates until this is resolved.

Hi
Now that you have run the init once, there is no need to delete the init flag
The delta pointer is set now, you can run the delta Ip from now onwards.
But if there were already some previous deltas done for this, and the delta had failed, because of which you have to initialise the delta again, then you need to delete the previous initialisation.
To delete the init flag.
Open your delta IP in RSA1(or in the PC)
Goto the scheduler menu option
initialization option for source system
There you will see that a window will pop up which will show a succesful load, and you will see a tick mark in the first column.
If you see a cross mark that would mean that the initialization has failed.
this mark whihc you see is called the init flag.
If you need to reinitialize the delta, then you have to delete this .
Select the entire row and click the third button at the bottom.
This will delete the initialization for source system( i.e init flag)
now, before running the delta, you have to run the init IP again.
it depends on the scenario whether you hav to run with data transfer or without data transfer.
Hope this clarifies the query
Regards
Shilpa

Error in code page mapping for Source system whil loading the data from ECC

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I am working in a implementation project, Recently our BI sand box is up, when i am doing my load from 0comp_code_attr it is throwing an error "Error in code page mapping for source system"(This is my first load from ECC).
In details tab it is showing as the data is sent from the source system but the data is not reaching to the PSA.
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Error in codepage mapping for source system. Error

Hi BW Experts,
I am facing following error:
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I repeated the delta working and everything fine.
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Please search SDN you can fin threads related to this thread
if not let me know.
Regards.

RSAR2318 : IDoc type for source system T90CLNT090 is not available

Hi all,
I am working on BI + ECC 6.0. Have created a ODS object using RSA1OLD. While activating the ODS, am getting this error:
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R7I028
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Error RSAR238 : IDoc type for source system T90CLNT090 is not available
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MS

M Sharma wrote:
But how exactly can I create when T90CLNT is not active? Help please.
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RSAR238 : IDoc type for source system T90CLNT090 is not available

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Thanks and regards,
Dhanapal

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http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-bw/test-cases-for-module-human-capital-management-1425016
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Error in code page mapping for Source System

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