Initialization Flags deleted from Initialization options for Source System

Hi BW Experts,
We have loaded PCA data in Infocube last week with Fiscal Year/Period Selection Parameters like
001.2004 to 016.2004
001.2005 to 016.2005
001.2006 to 016.2006
001.2007 to 016.2050
So we got 4 Initialization flags in Initialization options for Source System in SCHEDULER.
After this we are running Deltas daily
Accidentally All Initialization Flags deleted from SCHEDULER yesterday that we did not know yesterday.
Deltas did not run today.
Please can anyone tell me the solution for this.
I have to run the Delta today. How can i get the yesterday records in my Data Target,
Thanks & Regards,
Anjali
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Anjali

Hi Anjali,
Please delete the Init Request from your data target performed for Selection 001.2007 to 2050.
Also delete only those deltas request from your Data target which were performed after the above mentioned Init.
And then Re-Init with Selections on Fiscper - 001.2007 to 2050.
Thanks
CK
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