Initialization of delta loads possible with process chain?

hello all,
followed situation:
i load data from file and sap extractor to ods 1. from this ods i have an automatic delta load to another ods 2, where the data are filtered and aggregated.
its possible that some of the data change their state from filtered out to in but are not in ods 2 because of the earlier criterias they had have. now i want a weekly load (initial load) from ods 1 to ods 2 and a daily delta load if new data arrived ods 1 to the no 2.
i tried to create a process chain for that but i cant! i cannot use the info package for the initialization of the load from ods 1 to 2 because it is generated info package. and if i use the process "update ods object data" there is always tried to make a delta load! at first step i delete all data of ods 2, so i need an initialization with data as next step.
how can i do what i want?
thanks for any idea
Frank

Hello Tom,
ok, i understand but i dont know how...
The only way i know to create an InfoPackage between ODS is to use "Update ODS Data in Data Target" of the context menu of an ODS. Then i chose between full/delta/init load and the infopackage will be generated. How else can i create it?
Frank

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