INPUT: KT4/V vs CRC error in large data transfer/CD burning HERE!
This issue can be solved with BIOS update. KT4V & KT4 Ultra users who are having this problem can request for the TEST BIOS to test on your system. You may either pm/email me or Bas, or get it at http://ftp://ftp.heppen.be/MSI/
Please report back whether the test BIOS would really fix the problem, or cause any new problem, or any performance hit.
** this sounds like a Christmas Gift to KT4V users AND New Year Gift to KT4 Ultra users!!! :D **
To all KT4 Ultra and KT4V users, either you have data corruption or CRC error in large data transfer and CD burning or not, your inputs are needed.
Please list down your system specs as details as possible. Below here is a guideline, you may take this, CTRL-C (copy) and write your specs in your post.
1. System specs:
CPU:
Motherboard:
RAM Slot-1: (exact brand and model)
RAM Slot-2:
RAM Slot-3:
display card: [no overclock]
IDE-1M: (exact HDD brand and model pls)
IDE-1S:
IDE-2M:
IDE-2S:
IDE-3:
SER-1:
SER-2:
PCI-1:
PCI-2:
PCI-3:
PCI-4:
PCI-5:
PCI-6:
PSU: (brand, model, total power, (estimated) combined power)
BIOS revision:
Operating System:
VIA 4-in-1 drivers : (if you installed it, tell us the version)
other drivers, services or applications might affect the data transfer such as : PCI Latency patch, WPCREDIT modifications, VCool, CoolerXP...
2. CRC ERROR?
PASS or FAIL
If PASS, let us know your BIOS settings.
If FAIL, proceed as below:
3. Please use these BIOS settings:
1. Load BIOS Setup Default
2. NO OVERCLOCK ON FSB! Set accordingly to your CPU
2. Set RAM to
a) SPD, if failed try
b) User defined to the slowest RAM timings, ie 266,2.5,3,6,3,disable interleave,4,disable 1T, normal
If PASS, go for more extreme BIOS settings as you usually use:
1. High Performance Default
2. set RAM to the extreme timings
3. DO NOT overclock yet until both 1. and 2. are PASS
4. Try these suggestions:
1. Microsoft IDE drivers (uninstall VIA 4-in-1's)
2. VIA 4-in-1 different version's IDE filter driver?
3. VIA IDE Miniport driver?
4. use IDE-3 RAID channel for one HDD data transfer
5. same HDD transfer, ie C:\dir1\*.* -> C:\dir2\*.*
6. burn CD at 1x speed
7. Set the HDD and/or CD to PIO mode, or slower UDMA mode.
8. If and only if you know how to update BIOS correctly and willing to take some risks, try the BETA BIOS KT4 (1.25), KT4V (1.64) too.
Please report back your tests and experimentations of these suggestions.
If you have any workaround to deal with this issue other than set back FSB to 100Mhz, please tell us too.
Thanks for your inputs!
My system, just gotten this 2 days ago
CPU: Athlon XP 2000+
Motherboard: MSI KT4V (MS-6712)
RAM Slot-1:
RAM Slot-2: 512 Mb Kingston DDR 333 CAS 2.5
RAM Slot-3:
display card: Abit Siluro GF3 Ti200
IDE-1M: Western Digital WD800JB (8 Mb Cache) - 80 GB
IDE-1S: Seagate U-Series ST360020A - 60 GB
IDE-2M: Sony DVD-ROM 16x (DDU1621)
IDE-2S: Creative CDRW121032
IDE-3:
SER-1:
SER-2:
PCI-1:
PCI-2:
PCI-3: Accton 1207F 10/100 Fast Ethernet Card
PCI-4: SBLIVE 5.1 Platinum with Live!Drive II
PCI-5:
PCI-6:
PSU: 400Watts (Generic)
BIOS revision: 1.6
Operating System: Windows 2000 with SP3
VIA 4-in-1 drivers : Hyperion 4.45, only AGP and INF installed. IDE drivers are standard Win2k/SP3 ones.
2. CRC ERROR?
FAIL.
When i had my system, i tried installing Windows ME as i wanted to do dual-booting together with Win2K. When i tried to install NVIDIA Detonator drivers (Ver 30.82), it proceeded as normally and asked for a reboot, which i did, then it just hang before the start of Windows ME. I did a reboot, and later selected "Normal" as Windows ME detected a failed startup, and later i was able to enter Windows ME, but it reported that the NVIDIA Detonator drivers were invalid and of wrong type to my display card.
Later i tried to move my files from my C:\ to D:\ and it reported saying that my destination file is invalid.
When i changed my OS to Win2k/SP3 (no more dual-boot), and installed the same NVIDIA detonator driver version, it worked. When i started to copy files again, it later BSOD, and said PAGE_FAULT_ERROR (something like this). When installing from CDs, it will report that my .CAB files are corrupt or have insufficient swap file space (i set mine manually at 1.2Gb size). Then there are times during my reboots and entering win2k, i found my keyboard and mouse (all PS/2) not working and windows loads as usual.
Later i changed my PCI latency setting from 32 to 96, i managed to install from CD without much further issues.
Upon reading these posts here, i didn't realize that the MSI KT4 series or the KT400 chipset had so much issues! i have read from countless sites like extremetech and anandtech and none reported about this particular errors i have encountered during my first 2 days with this setup. (this is my first Athlon setup, i'm previously and Intel person-type).
So far, i conclude in my settings is that:
-32-Bit settings in Bios settings for CD/DVD/CD-RW must be disabled, i concur with Shumway's recommendations.
-DMA settings in Windows 2000 for CD/DVD/CD-RW must be set to PIO mode otherwise when copying from CD to HDD will have read errors.
-Installing the PCI latency fix really does wonders for my set. (PCI Latency fix ver 1.9). Now i can copy files from all my drives without worrying so much about CRC errors. Thank you, George E. Breese.
-I really want to know why in WinME i can't install the NVIDIA detonator drivers, while in Win2K i can.
I post again, once i have done some more tests to my system, especially CD-R writes.
Angel17
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