Input on backup plan
Hi all,
After much investigation and some great suggestions and information from members of the forum, I have decided on a plan for OS/apps drive security and data/work files backup for my Mac Pro.
For boot/apps drive reliability (not backup) I am going to try a RAID mirror config on the initial 320GB drive in bay#1 and a second WD 320GB drive in bay#3 (see illustration below for visuals). That should give me confidence knowing that I have an exact and current copy of the OS/apps drive in case the main OS/apps drive goes down. I will be able to seamlessly continue work flow.
My plan for backup of the data/work files drive, 500GB in bay#2, is to schedule regular incremental backups with Retrospect Express (or something similar) to an external 1TB FW drive. For cost effectiveness, I bought a FW drive with only 3 interfaces (FW 800 which I am using, FW 400 and USB 2). One question regarding the FW drive is that it has 3 options on the power switch, off, auto, and on. I am running the drive in 'auto' mode right now. I imagine that is an energy saver and easier on the drive. Is this the case?
I would love to have stayed strictly SATA and gotten a Firmtech dual hotswap case with PCIe controller card and an eSATA drive, but the budget has already gone rogue on me, lol. Anyhow, one of the best bits of advice I got was that the important point is to make a decision and do something, and what works for one person may not be the best solution for another. I always invite informed opinions though. I have been learning a boatload over the past few weeks. This forum is a fabulous and endless source of generous information.
Here's the illustration:
Thanks to all who gave valuable insight and informative links.
Best,
Dennis
Dennis,
Your original post does not describe the nature of the work that you do on your MacPro. I have a MacPro 8-core that is my principal machine for photography (21MP RAW files using Lightroom 2.2, Photoshop CS4) and video editing (iMovie, Final Cut Express). Currently my video files occupy 1TB of drive space, my photography library is about 700GB.
Here is my set and regardless of your application, I think that you would be well served by same:
Bay1 - 1TB with 2 partitions: 900GB for OS, apps and standard User folder stuff (iTunes, some video, documents, financial stuff), and 100GB partition for Bootcamp/WinXP Pro for PC only games.
Bay2 - 1TB drive with 2 partitions: 100GB scratch disk for Photoshop and 900GB for SuperDuper clones of Bay 1 boot drive.
Bay3 and Bay4 - 2 x 1TB drives in RAID 0 configuration for 1.8TB of actual fast storage for working photo and video files and my Lightroom library.
*If I were you, the first upgrade I would make would be a pair of matched drives to create a RAID 0 using 2 bays of your MP. This almost doubles your effective read/write times over a single drive of the same type.*
To back up and off load files that are not needed but need to be kept accessible, I use a SansDigital 5-bay external eSata tower connected to a HighPoint eSata host PCIe card installed in slot 4 in my MP. The SansDigital unit is very quiet and sits next to my MP. I use in a JBOD configuration (5 separate hard drives, 3 x 1TB and 2 x 750GB). I used to use single external FW800 drives for extra storage, but I quickly outgrew them and they created lots of clutter around my work area. My working files from my RAID 0 are backed up to a ReadyNAS NV+ on my gigabit network in a RAIDX (redundant) configuration with 4 x 1TB drives for a total capacity of 2.8TB.
Critical data, photos and video archives are backup up weekly to my old single external drives which I rotate through a safe deposit box at my local bank for secure offsite storage.
And finally, I have an older Lacie 1.5TB USB external drive connected to my Airport Extreme for Time Machine backups of my User folders on my MacPro, MacBookPro and my kids' iMac and my daughter's MacBook. This works seemlessly.
For back up software, I actually mirror my data folders rather than make incremental backups. Do it this way allows me instant access to any of my files without having to go through a restoration process.
For software, I've tried many and for a few years I was sold on Chronosync. For the past few months, however, I've been using Synchronize! Pro X instead. SPX works faster and more reliably on my network than Chronosync.
Obviously, I have a considerable investment in my hardware, but I built it up over time. I have learned a lot from other posters in forums like this. Another great resource to check out for MacPro owners is www.macgurus.com. They have some great detailed articles on building RAIDs and other storage speed tips.
Good luck on building your system.
Bud James
North Wales, PA
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Wednesday: APP_2
Thursday: APP_3
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Thanks for any inputs, again.
G.B.Hi
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I would like to make daily tablespace backup instead of weekend whole database backup.
What for a backup, incremental 0, incremental 1, cumulative, differential, full?
1 - I'm not able to do PITR to time before last tablespace backup, right?
You must have at least one tablespace backup at the level 0. After that you can do all what you want/need.
2 - I need to restore evevery data file from backups to do PITR, right?
Yes
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Hi Experts!
I work with BO since 2007. I worked a lot with BO XI 3.1 and now with BI 4.0. I always have a question about the way to make a backup: What is a best backup plan on BO 4.0.
I know de many way to do this, but how I'm a consultant developer and backup usually is not my responsibility, but always I have to advise my clients and users.
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Changing the datasource of LO cockpit inR/3..need a backup plan
Hi gurus,
i am going to change the datasource in production system i have done everything in Dev and QAs but my client is asking for a backup plan if something goes wrong.
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thanks and regards
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Best of luck
Pradip -
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Friends,
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Thanks,
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Select
SERVERPROPERTY('ServerName'),
db.name,
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CONVERT(VARCHAR(10), b.backup_finish_date, 103) + + convert(VARCHAR(8), b.backup_finish_date, 14) backup_finish_date,
case
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when (DATEDIFF(hour, b.backup_start_date, getdate())>=24)then 'Failed'
end Status,
DATEDIFF(hh, b.backup_finish_date, GETDATE())BackupAgeInHours,
(b.backup_size/1024/1024/1024 )BackupSize,
case b.[type]
WHEN 'D' THEN 'Full'
WHEN 'I' THEN 'Differential'
WHEN 'L' THEN 'Transaction Log'
END Type,
ISNULL(STR(ABS(DATEDIFF(day, GetDate(),(Backup_finish_date)))), 'NEVER')DaysSinceLastBackup
FROM sys.sysdatabases db
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FROM msdb.dbo.backupset) b ON b.database_name = db.name AND RNUM = 1
where dbid<>2
OR
SELECT
DISTINCT
a.Name AS DatabaseName ,
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COALESCE(( SELECT CONVERT(VARCHAR(12), MAX(backup_finish_date), 101)
FROM msdb.dbo.backupset
WHERE database_name = a.name
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FROM msdb.dbo.backupset
WHERE database_name = a.name
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c:
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h:
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to it and continue working and deal with the regular boot drive faiure,
what ever it may be, later. Especially since all your data and such
is on another drive. If you use your computer for work and time
critical projects, this is a major plus!
In the case of a hard drive failure/replacement, copying the clone
to the drive is the fastest way to get the system and all your settings
back.
Time Machine and incremental backups have a place as well. It is best
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software that doesn't work or just don't plain like. With Time Machine it
is easy to just restore back to the point before the install.
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If you are using your computer for business, you can never have too many
backups. Coralllary 456 of Murphy's Law is the "number of backups that
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getting Photoshop in due course). I wonder if you'd be kind enough to advise if my backup process
is ok - I'm thinking of this:
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pictures in 'home' folder, as these are unedited even if edited in LR4, and this way even if I have
edited them in LR4 I will always have backup of unedited DNGs
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have 900 photos, not thousands), and start using 'Time Machine'. Again I'll have a 2nd HD off site which
I'll also use with Time Machine, and rotate them every few days.
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in the event of a hard drive failure I'll have unedited DNGs, and also the edited photos, as the catalogue will
presumably have all the edit steps etc. I'm not sure I see the point in backing up cat file more often than I
back up photos?
4) When I begin using Photoshop I presume that, to save the edited photos, I will need to save them
separately, or will the Photoshop edits also be included in the LR4 cat file?
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mean I could lose photos or info.
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3) As stated, you don't need to make backups of both edited and unedited DNGs. THere's no such thing as edited DNGs. Using Lightroom, storing backups of the original DNGs is sufficient. Backups of the catalog file are mandatory. As far as the frequency of backups, if you are daily making significant changes to your catalog, then daily (or more frequent) backups of your catalog is a good idea. If you modify your catalog less frequently, then less frequent backups are probably appropriate.
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Hi all,
Please tell if there is any backup plan available with portal.
If Yes,describe.
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Do you use WCC, Oracle IAM?, SOA? So many questions.
You may want to review
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E25178_01/core.1111/e10105/part6.htm#ASADM10827
Specifically
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E25178_01/core.1111/e10105/br_intro.htm#CHDJGHAI
Chapter 16, "Introducing Backup and Recovery"
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E25178_01/core.1111/e10105/br_bkp.htm#BHAGEDDH
Chapter 17, "Backing Up Your Environment"
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E25178_01/core.1111/e10105/br_rec.htm#BCGCBGDJ
Chapter 18, "Recovering Your Environment"
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I would like to have a monthly backup plan as explained in the oracle documentation:
First Friday of the month: Full Backup (Incremental Level 0)
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday: Incremental Level 1
2nd, 3rd, 4th Friday: Cumulative Incremental Backups Level 1
As I understand is that the 4th cumulative incremental backup will contain all the changes from the full backup.
Is there any way so that the 4th friday backup will contain only the changes since the 3rd Friday and so on?user12075536123 wrote:
Thank you for advice.
I understand Oracle has "backup level 0-4"
I checked the document
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/backup.112/e10643/rcmsynta007.htm#i78895
INCREMENTAL LEVEL integer
Copies only those data blocks that have changed since the last incremental integer backup, where integer is 0 or 1
I understand Oracle has only level 0 and 1
I tested
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RMAN> backup incremental level 0 database;
Starting backup at 18-SEP-13
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: SID=64 instance=orcl device type=DISK
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channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backup set
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Starting backup at 18-SEP-13
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting incremental level 1 datafile backup set
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backup set
Finished backup at 18-SEP-13
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Starting backup at 18-SEP-13
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting incremental level 2 datafile backup set
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backup set
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Starting backup at 18-SEP-13
using channel ORA_DISK_1
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channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backup set
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Starting backup at 18-SEP-13
using channel ORA_DISK_1
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channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backup set
Finished backup at 18-SEP-13
RMAN> backup incremental level 5 database;
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using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
RMAN-00569: =============== ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===============
RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
RMAN-03002: failure of backup command at 09/18/2013 21:32:58
RMAN-06011: invalid level specified: 5
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why!!
Since there is no documentation of any level beyond 1, I can only guess that it is for backward compatibility. -
Hi All,
can anyone help me out.
My Client is asking me what is ur backup plan,
please guide me in this regard
1. database runs in archive mode
2. every day scheduled hot backup
3. wkly cold backup
4. data guard against natural disasters
is it okay
Thanks in advance for your helpThe backup strategy / standby ( dataguard) depend up on the
1) How much critical db for your company.
2) How much down time they can afford?
3) What is size of the db?
4) activities on the db ?
5) monthly or yearly growth of db?
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When will apple have iPhoto backup plans? I want to be able to backup my photos in iCloud that I don't take with my iPhone.
1. Apple are not "trying to remove the user form managing files and directories". Don't you understand that with a lossless processor there is no processed file? None. It has to be created by exporting from the database. So, how would surfing the stored files help there? For more on this see Adobe's Lightroom, not made by Apple but also a lossless processor. You're still confusing your file with your Photo. You still don't know the difference between an editor and a lossless processor.
2. If you can't see that searching by filename, title, any number of exif metadata entries, keywords, date, processing status, camera model, location where the photo was taken, faces in the photo, text in the captions etc, in both iPhoto and in every single Open... or Attach... dialogue is more flexible and makes your photos more available in every single other application on your computer as somehow more difficult that rooting around in files and folders, there is little to say to you. If you're happy with storing 100k of files in a system of folders and think you can access the preferred one based on your memory of the filename, then my hat's off to you. iPhoto offers more ways to search your photos and makes them available in every app on your Mac than files-in-folders. That's indisputable. Yes there is a learning curve. Most folks read that article once.
Sorry but you make enormous assumptions, and they are incorrect.
So the bottom line is that there is not a current way to back-up your iPhotot library online.
This is not true. What I said was that there is none that I would trust, and none that deal with the speed issue. But there are lots of services out there if these things are not a concern for you.
The thing about them though is that it is always way easier to use them when you are immersed in the Aple ecosystem
Well that's also true of Windows and Linux, Unix et al. Every OS has an eco system that it works best with. Ever try write to a Mac OS Extended (Journaled) disk with WIndows?
In this case though when you commit to a Mac computing platform you are commitiing your pictures into iPhoto
No you most certainly are not. This is a huge assumption and not at all true. iPhoto is an application that you can choose to use. Or not. You can use Picasa for Mac, Aperture, Lightroom, Bridge or just the base file system, or any of 50 other apps to manage your Photos. You are not forced to use iPhoto. Using a Mac does not mean you are comitted to using iPhoto. Just like using Windows does not mean you're committed using Internet Explorer. It's a choice you make.
Once you do that you are now limited on what your back-up options are.
No you are not.
So, notwithstanding your disappointment, you really need to look at what is in front of you. You have half a grasp of the possibilities and are then leaping to editorialising, and frankly, quite incorrectly. -
Carbon Clone and Time Machine: developing a backup plan
Howdy all!
This is a second post that sort of flows on from another I have written today
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4649740
I initally put them all together, but they were too rambling and disconnected, so it seemed better to seperate them. The question I have here is how best to organise my backup plan? I have a few ideas, but, basically, want to make sure I get the whole setup right the first time and would appreciate any advice from others that have been down the path before. As I am still waiting for some parts to arrive in the mail, I have a little time to think about how to go about setting up my Mac.
Basically the setup is:
Mac Mini 2012, boot drive is a Samsung 256GB 830 series SSD, seconday drive for data is a 1TB mechanical disk. I plan on having all my data on the seconday mechanical disk (photos, movies, music etc) and only the OS and Applications on the SSD. To this end, I understand I only have to move /Users to the mechanical disk to achieve this. I then also have 2x 2TB Western Digital MyBook Essential USB 3 disks for Time Machine backups. I plan on rotating them on a weekly basis (storing the disk not in use in a safe or offsite), and then, depending on costs a cloud backup service for some data (music, photos etc) which I might want to access when im not at home.
So I have been thinking for a few days now on the benefit of having a Carbon Clone bootable recovery drive. The thinking goes along these lines. As my data is on a seperate drive, and is backed up to Time Machine, in the event of an OS disk failure, I can replace the disk and then point /Users to the new drive, and I can be up and running once I have reinstalled the apps i need. Now, I understand the idea of the Carbon Clone backup is such that it speeds up the time to rebuild the OS disk, but I have to question, how useful is this in reality?
Consider, I can sit down now and write down all the apps I have needed in the past, install Mac OS, set it up (possibly with a generic admin password), install the apps I need from the App store and DVDs etc and then take a Carbon Clone at this point before any setup of Apps are done. If the apps configuration is backed up in the Time Machine backup (i.e.: the config files exist under /Users) then this is almost workable - in a recovery situation, the CC clone is used to rebuild the OS drive, the config files are pulled from the TM backups, and we're back up and running. Where this fails, is if I have installed (or removed) apps since the CC clone was made. At this point then, is it best to (a) make a new clone when a new app is added/removed or (b) make a note of apps added/removed, which will then have to be reinstalled if a recovery is required. I tend to think the (b) method is best here, as it preserves the integrity of the clone. If the machine has been compromised (malware etc) then remaking the clone, causes the clone to be compromised and hence the reinstalled machine as well. Though this method could be a pain if the machine state has changed somewhat over time. Also, it means that the reinstalled system will be missing updates etc which could be time consuming to apply anyway, so the usefulness of a clone is slightly reduced anyway.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Some days I think having a clone will be useful esp. as most of my software was delivered on CD (Adobe Creative Suite, Office) or are large install bases (XCode), but other days I think, "its not a mission critical machine", i can survive a day without it while I rebuild the install, and so I dont achieve much by having a clone which is likely out-of-date by the time I go to use it.
Also, in this backup plan, is it best to rely on TM for things like email backup or a dedicated mail backup utility? can a Carbon Clone exist on the same disk as Time Machine uses, or do I need to invest in a new disk or two for the CC clones?
As I say, I want to make sure I have this machine setup right from the start, and would really appreciate any pointers, tips or advice.There is one big advantage of a clone. You can immediately reboot
to it and continue working and deal with the regular boot drive faiure,
what ever it may be, later. Especially since all your data and such
is on another drive. If you use your computer for work and time
critical projects, this is a major plus!
In the case of a hard drive failure/replacement, copying the clone
to the drive is the fastest way to get the system and all your settings
back.
Time Machine and incremental backups have a place as well. It is best
suited for "incremental" problems. Examples are installing an upgrade to
software that doesn't work or just don't plain like. With Time Machine it
is easy to just restore back to the point before the install.
Something else I do is backup current project files to USB memory sticks.
If you are using your computer for business, you can never have too many
backups. Coralllary 456 of Murphy's Law is the "number of backups that
you need will be one more than what you have!" -
I am confused with Mac OS X Server Time machine backup plan
I just purchased a Mac mini with Snow Leopard server. I just start use this Mac mini for home file sharing server, iTune musics, photo processing (under my user/Picture directory) and iPhone coding (under my user/Document directory).
Since there are some critical personal file in this Mac mini, I am looking for a backup plan.
Original, I setup Time Machine as my iMac and I though Time Machine will backup everything, especially my photos. So, I enable my Mac mini Time Machine and assign backup to my 1TB external hard drive, it seems works correct.
But I happen browse this document today the "Apple Documentation for setting up Snow Leopard Server".
http://images.apple.com/server/macosx/docs/AdvancedServer_Adminv10.6.pdf
And it seems said Time Machine will not backup everything and it also not mentioned if photos and musics will be backup or not.
Then I look into my external 1TB hard drive via terminal, it's free space decreased and looks like my data are already backup in this 1TB hard drive.
So, should I choice another backup plan, like purchase another external RAID and use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup?
Any suggestion is welcome. TIA.Sorry to hear you've had so much trouble with backups
On the contrary. I have no issues with my backups. What gave you that idea?
From your post, I guess you know something that CA or Tivoli doesn't.
If you're referring to my umm... disdain for Retrospect I would have to assume they're aware of the problems running their product on production Mac OS X Servers. It's not hard to find references to people running into problems with it. If they're not aware then their support escalation process needs work.
Your method may work, but not if you have a site power or fire failure
OK, you lost me there. Which method are you referring to? replication? That's entirely viable as a protection against power or fire - locate the replica in a different datacenter/office/whatever.
want to have a cost effective solution (requires complete servers)
How valuable is your data? How much does downtime cost you?
How much does a second server cost?
or have off-site backups (to take one off-site for storage you will have to buy another server)
See my point above.
not to mention various compliancy issues
If you're dealing with any of the major compliancy issues (e.g. SOX, HIPPA, PCI, etc.) then the cost of a replication server is trivial compared to the cost of even thinking about compliance (most consultants charge thousands of dollars just to walk in the door and say 'hi').
Not to mention that any of the above compliance rules pretty much require replication, and you taking a weekly (or even daily) copy of your disk home with you is just not going to cut it.
I have been using BRU for some time now
I have a lot of respect for BRU. One of the better options out there (assuming they fixed the awful UI issues they had in early versions).
save for having to shut off the sql engine before one short backup
Thank you for validating my statement - you cannot backup an active server without terminating services that are writing to the disk.
Of course, in the replication model, you could temporarily stop replication, shut down the service, perform your backups, then restart services/replication (which will automatically catch up with the intermediate changes), while allowing clients to continue talking to the primary server.
THAT is the definition of performing backups of live data/servers without impacting users. -
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