Insanely slow rendering times, almost 60x longer | After Effects CS6

I'm using Adobe After Effects CS6 and have been messing around with some intro making. This being said, the clips that I have in AE are 5-10 seconds long.
My composition includes 2 lights, a camera, 3d text, a shockwave, a background (w/Magic Bullet Looks effect) and a song. All together, it is 5 seconds long. I render it out using AVI w/sound and it says it will take nearly 3 1/2 hours. I talked to a friend who is much better at intro making then me and includes many more layers and his renders take 3-15 minutes. It's an insane difference! I must be doing something wrong but I don't understand what it is.
System Specs:
Intel i5-3570
EVGA GTX 770 4gb
8gb Ram
Western Digital 1TB (582 GB Free, this is where the file is being saved to.)
Samsung Evo PRO 128gb SSD (This is where AE is located.)
Windows 7
Thanks for any help, it's very much appreciated.

Before you go through all those resources just to goose the render speed, here's something you can do right away: turn off multiprocessing (render multiple frames simultaneously) and turn off any hardware acceleration. With just 4 lousy gigs of memory, you can't use multiprocessing, and AE uses very little hardware acceleration.
Then get yourself some more RAM: think about at least 16 gigs.
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