Insert Page Name in Master page

Hello.
I was wondering if there was an easy way to insert the page name inside a master page, something like indesign's variable ?
If i want this exactly like the widgets (drag and drop a box, it places with editable attribute of pageitem::menu), i'm ok to type and paste some html.
(I also wonder how to use the widgets.muse file to build my own, but that's another question i guess)

Thanks, this sounds like just what I'm after. However…
I feel pretty silly asking this, but I can't understand the Adobe Help files on overriding a master item.
It lists a two step process:
Make sure the master item can be overridden -this seems to be fine. After selecting the inserted File Name in the master I can see a tick next to Allow Master Item Overrides On Selection in the Pages panel menu.
Override specific master items on a document page - this is where I get lost.
Firstly I can't select the items on a regular (non-master) page. Am I meant to select them on the master page?
Secondly the help file simply says "Change the selected master items as desired." How do I change them. There's no explicit instruction, and I can't for the life of me work it out.
More generally (if this does happen on a master), do I need to make this change on every document in the book, or can I simply make the change on the Style Source and then synchronise the remaining files?

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