Inspection lot number is skipping
Dear friends,
When i create production GRN/purchase GRN, lot numbers are created. But, the sequence is not maintaining. i would like to know what are the conditions by which lot numbers do not follow the sequence ?. What are the customising settings to be done?. I checked in the default values for the inspection type and define inspection types settings. In these two settings, i could not able to find where i have to do the settings for the maintainance of the sequence. At the same time , for the inprocess inspection(insp type 03) the sequence is maintaining.
regards, ebenezer
There are cases that when you create all the required entries for GR, but doenst post a GR, at this case the system will assign a inspection lot number internally and holds it in buffer. If you cancel posting that GR and again after some time
Do the same and post the GR then there will be new number generated skipped one number. This is a common problem.
There may be cases that when you at the last stage of the posting GR then there can be case that power supply is lost or same batch is being accessed by some one or system gets hanged in such cases also the sequence will be skipped.
Hope this helps you.
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Inspection lot number ranges skipping
My inspection lot number ranges are skipping, those are std number ranges like 01 origin, 04 origin etc, what could be the reason for that.
Inspn lots are getting generated and I took UD also. But certain numbers in the range got skipped.
Eg:- Incoming inspn lot 010000000041 then it comes 010000000045
Lot numbers 01/42, 01/43, 01/44 does not exist in sytem.
Please suggest a way out
Thanks
Vineeth
Edited by: vineeth varghese on Jul 18, 2008 11:31 AMCraig,
But expert suggestion says, not to switch off buffer thru SNRO as it may affect fuctionality as you said early in this discussion.
But I believe, this is to be relooked by SAP as number range skipping is not good (My case its skipping 5-7 numbers at a time). But I am not convinced with the reply from SAP also.
Anyway thanks to you craig for your advice.
SAP Note on this matter for reference of all. Thanks
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Note: 62077
Summary
Symptom
Gaps (jumps) occur when allocating internal numbers.
The status of the number range interval does not match the number that was last assigned.
The number assignment does not reflect the insert sequence.
IMPORTANT: Read Notes 504875 and 678501.
Other terms
Document number, number range, number range object, buffering, current number level, trip number assignment, number interval, CO document, CO actual posting, inspection lot, material document, physical inventory document, production order number, planned order number, process order number, maintenance order number
FB01, VF01, KO88, KE21, KE11, FD01, FK01, XK01, XDN1, MB01, MB0A, MB11, MB1A, MB1B, MB1C, MB31, KANK, KB11, KB13, KB14, KB41, KB43, KB44, KB21, KB23, KB24, KB31, KB33, KB34, KB51, KB53, KB54, PR01, PR02, PR03, PR04, PR05, XD01, VD01, MK01, SNUM, SM56, SNRO, VL01, VL02, CO01, CO40, CO41, VA01, MR1M, MIRO
Reason and Prerequisites
A large number of number range objects are buffered. When the system buffers a number range object, it does not update numbers individually in the database but reserves a preset group of numbers (depending on the number range object) in the database the first time a number is requested, and makes these numbers available to the application server in question. The following numbers can then be taken directly from the application server buffer. New numbers are not used in the database until the application server buffer has been used up.
The effects described under "Symptom" are a direct consequence of this:
If an application server is shut down, the numbers that are left in the buffer (that is, that are not yet assigned) are lost. As a result, there are gaps in the number assignment.
The status of the number range interval reflects the next free number that has not yet been transferred to an application server for intermediate buffering. The current number level therefore does not display the number of the "next" object.
The current number level (for each server) can be displayed using Transaction SM56. Call transaction SM56 and choose the menu 'Goto' -> 'Entries'. In the dialog box, enter the client, the affected number range object (for example, RK_BELEG) and possibly the required subobject (corresponds to the controlling area for the object RK_BELEG).
If you use several application servers, the numerical sequence will not reflect the (chronological) insert sequence because the numbers are buffered separately on the individual hosts.
Buffering the number range objects has a positive effect on performance, because the system no longer has to access the database (number range table NRIV) for each posting. Furthermore, a serialization of this table (database locking) is prevented to a large extent so that posting procedures can be carried out in parallel.
Solution
Since number range buffering does not cause any expressly assured qualities to be lost, no correction is required.
If you still require continuous allocation, you can deactivate the number range buffering specifically for individual objects.
Proceed as follows:
- Start Transaction SNRO and enter the affected object.
- Choose 'Change'.
- Deactivate buffering: Choose 'Edit' -> 'Set Up Buffering' -> 'No Buffering'.
- If you want to change the buffer size only, enter the corresponding value in the field 'No. of numbers in buffer'.
- Save the changes.
Please note that this change is a modification. The modification is overwritten as soon as the affected number range object is redelivered - in other words, you must check the change manually each time you import a release.
In particular, read Note 678501, bearing in mind that changing the buffering type - if not explicitly recommended by SAP - constitutes a modification. For other possible solutions, refer to the following notes:
179224, 599157 and 840901.
For the the following number range objects, gaps may cause users to have doubts since they are 'expecting' a sequential numbering:
Area CO:
- RK_BELEG (CO Document)
CAUTION: Note that the problems described in Notes 20965 and 29030 may occur if you deactivate buffering.
- COPA_IST (Document number in actual posting)
- COPA_PLAN (Document number in planned posting)
- COPA_OBJ (Profitability segment number)
Area FI:
- DEBITOR (Customer master data)
- KREDITOR (Vendor master data)
Area HR:
- RP_REINR (Trip numbers)
Area PM, PP, PS
- AUFTRAG (Order number, production, process, maintenance order, network number)
- QMEL_NR (Number range - message)
Area MM:
- MATBELEG (Material documents)
- MATERIALNR (Material master)
Area QM:
- QLOSE (Inspection lots in QM)
- QMEL_NR (Number range - message)
- QMERK (Confirmation number)
- QMERKMALE (Master inspection characteristics in QSS)
- QMERKRUECK (Confirmation number of an inspection characteristic in QM results processing)
- QMETHODEN (Inspection methods in QM)
- ROUTING_Q (Number ranges for inspection plans)
- QCONTROLCH (Quality control chart)
Area Workflow:
- EDIDOC (IDocs)
Number range buffering can be activated or deactivated at any time.
Number range objects that have to be continuous due to legal specifications (for example, RF_BELEG, RV_BELEG), or due to a corresponding application logic must not be buffered using the buffering type 'Main memory buffering'. See also Notes 37844 (for RF_BELEG) and 23835 (for RV_BELEG).
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 10.07.2007 12:57:00
Priority: Recommendations/additional info
Category: Consulting
Primary Component: BC-SRV-NUM Number Range Management
Secondary Components: CA-GTF General Application Functions
BC-SRV-ASF-UOM Unit Management
CO Controlling
CO-OM-CCA Cost Center Accounting
CO-OM-CCA-A Master Data
CO-PA Profitability Analysis
FI Financial Accounting
FI-AP Accounts Payable
FI-AR Accounts Receivable
FI-GL General Ledger Accounting
FI-TV Business Trip Management
LO-MD-MM Material Master
MM Materials Management
MM-IM Inventory Management
MM-IM-PI Physical Inventory
PM Plant Maintenance
PP Production Planning and Control
QM Quality Management
QM-PT Quality Planning
QM-QN Quality Notifications
Edited by: viny on Jul 23, 2008 9:18 AM -
Connection between batch and inspection lot number
Hi all,
our GR in SAP triggers the creation of a batch number and an inspection lot number.
If I only know the batch number, where in SAP can I find the related inspection lot number?
Thanks
Annewe have a Material Master that represents a semi-finished material that requires inspection at Goods Receipt from Production. In order to see the settings maintained for this material, click on the Insp. setup button:
More details
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/searchSAP/downloads/UsingDigitalSignaturesEMconvtSearchSAP.pdf
Kevin -
Table for Delivery number & Quality inspection lot number.
Hi Gurus,
In which table, Delivery Number & Quality inspection lot number are related?
Reg.
AmolHi,
In LIPS
If required modify layout and select Inspection lot option
Kapil -
GR line item proportional to Inspection Lot Number
Hi,
I would like to know if its possible to have the GR line item proportional to QM Inpection lot.
For example, I have 10 line item in a PO that need to be GR, is it possible to have 10 different inspection lot number for this? or is it only 1.
Thanks again,
RaymondHi
Yes this is possible by QM view >enter Inspection type 01> Control InsLot: For Each material document Item.
This will create a Inspection lot for each line item in GR.Also in MIGO you can select line wise material document creation(seperate GR).
Regards
Sujit -
WHEN I DONE GR AGAINST PURCHASE ORDER INSPECTION LOT NUMBER IS NOT COME TO SERIAL KINDLY GIVE TO ME SUGGETION WHAT IS THE MISSING I AM USING STANDARD NUMBER RANAGES IN GR INSPECTION 010000000000 TO019999999999
Hi,
Go to the Tcode SNUM enter object ID QLOSE select change button
Here you have to check (No. of numbers in buffer)
make it zero and then check ,your inspection lot number will come serially.
Please revert back in case of doubt.
Regards,
Vinay -
Inspection lot number not recorded in production order
Experts,
when I release a production order, the inspection lot is created correctly (type 04 - early lot creation) but the inspection lot number is not recorded in the production order. Why not?
RgdsDear,
Only 03 type will be recorded in header, not 04. It is normal -
Enter inspection lot number in Delivery
Hi gurus.
I want to enter inspection lot number manually in Delivery at item level Processing Tab manually.
currently its coming grey out so unable to enter inspection lot number in VL01N.
Reg.
Amolcurrently its coming grey out so unable to enter inspection lot number in VL01N.
As per my knowledge ,when you do picking the Inspection lot automatically gets generate in the background.That is a reason it is Gray.Second thing is that this lot if you will open you will find the reference of the sales order,of which you are doing the delivery.
So how can you enter it manually.
You can not give reference of another lot.Not possible by any ways. -
Enter inspection lot number in Delivery manually.
Hi Gurus.
I want to enter inspection lot number manually in Delivery at item level in Processing Tab manually.
currently its coming grey out so unable to enter inspection lot number in VL01N.
if i assign Inspection lot origin Z10 to Delivery type LF in SPRO-> Inspection at Shipping & do required changes in Z10.
Will that work???
Reg.
Amolcurrently its coming grey out so unable to enter inspection lot number in VL01N.
As per my knowledge ,when you do picking the Inspection lot automatically gets generate in the background.That is a reason it is Gray.Second thing is that this lot if you will open you will find the reference of the sales order,of which you are doing the delivery.
So how can you enter it manually.
You can not give reference of another lot.Not possible by any ways. -
I do have outbound delivery number and Saled order number handy with me.
How to find 04 type Inspection lot number for this?Dear one way is for acheving this you can trace the lot number through material movements.
In MB51 for particular material check the movements types 601 and 101(If it is descrete or process order) or 131(If it is rep.mnf.) and you can compare the quantity and posting dates if it is batch managed then it is very easy to trase the production order material document number which is related to that particular outbound delivery number.Once you find the material documents number you can find the inspection lot number in that particular doucement or through QA33.
Check and Revert.
Cheers
KK -
Dear Gurus
We have the following situation: When we generate the inspection lot with the tcode QA01, the system skip some numbers in the interval number range . Example from 90000006 the following would be 90000012.
Did anyone get a similar situation. What could be the problems
Kinds regards in advance.Hi Jose,
This is probably due to number buffering in your application server. Each time you need a number, the application server get a set of numbers from the database servers (how many is defined in the number range master data) and then the number is assigned from those reserved numbers in your Appl. Serv. If another user request new number from other appl. srv. then those numbers are reserved in the other one, and so on.
You may check this setting in transaction OMAD, for object QLOSE (QM inspection lot) from the Context menu Edit>Set-up buffering>No buffer
Hope this helps,
GS -
Dear Gurus
We have the following situation:When i do the MIGO for GR,every time i clicked the button 'check' ,the inspection lot will skip one number.why?
best regards!
Edited by: pongpong on Oct 19, 2010 5:58 AMDear,
Go to OMAD or SUNM enter object QLOSE then check the number range buffer .
Header menu-- Edit>Set-up buffering>No buffer
As described in note 989067 the sequential numbering of inspection lots cannot be guarenteed.
i.e. if in the MIGO you do a check for the material movement then a number in the sequence of inspection lot numbers is lost.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Inspection Lot number on Process Order
Hi Experts,
There's an Inspection Lot field in process order in Assignment Tab, but it doesnt reflect the number of the Inspection Lot of the Material. What am i missing?
Thanks,
Kumarhi kumar
that inspection lot no is assigned to process order when you have maintained inspection type 03 ie inprocess check in material master . when you release process order you can see inspection lot is generated and that inpsection lot no you can on that field.
Regards
Pravin -
No Inspection Lot required for Skipped Lot
Hi Experts,
I have used DMR to skip 10 lots from a particular vendor and inspect the 11th lot. But the client's requirement is even inspection lot should not be generated for the skipped lots.
Also, if the material is procured from some other vendor, then the inspection lot should be generated everytime.
How can I map this?
Please advise.
Regards,
RahulThe only alternative I can think of would be to use a development. Set up the inspections to happen . No DMR. You then would use a user exit, (I believe QAAT002, maybe QAAT001 would work). One of those allow you to set a flag in the user exit that supreses the creation of the inspectoin lot.
You would have to have the user exit look up the GR's for the vendor/material/plant combination since the last inspection lot for this combination. Then if the count is equal or greater than ten, you create the lot. If less then 10, you suppress the creation of the lot.
I would be careful how you code the user exit. You'll probably only want this to apply to certain materials so you have to come up with a way that allows flexibability in what materials this is used for. I might suggest using the QMin procuremnet control key. If you have no procurement functions, you usually define a control key 0000 for this . Copy that to 1001 for instance. It will have no functions. But your user exit would only run if the control key was 1001. It would immediately exit for any other control key in use. You might need additional control keys if you do use other features of the conrtol key such as COA receipt. In that case you might have two control keys that trigger your user exit. 1001 and 1002. 1002 would require a cert.
I hope this is clear.
FF
Edited by: FireFighter on Sep 22, 2011 2:50 PM -
Sample size does'not appear in QA02 of created Inspection lot Number.
Hi Experts,
I have created a production order of a material and its Inspection lot is automatically created but the inspection lot created does'not have sample size from the stock as a result I am unable to perform result recording of a inspection lot.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Thanks
SaurabhDear Saurabh Mishra.
Kumar & Barjatya's said is right. and more you can consider for solve this problem as below step;
- You must change the sampling procedure in the inspection plan. After you have reset the sample
in QAC3
1. First you must change the sampling procedure to fixed sample (assuming you have 100%
inspection at present) in QDV2 or
create a new sampling procedure (as Naik remarked) with fixed sample in QDV1
2. Then assign the changed sampling procedure in the inspection plan through QP02
3. Then assign a sample quantity in the inspection plan in the same transaction (QP02) for the
inspection characteristic to be inspected
4. Save the inspection plan, and run QA02 where you re-assign the updated inspection plan and
re-do sample calculation.
For GR based lot i have already stated what has to be done. In case of an inspection lot caused
due to the GR from a process or purchase order, cancel the GR. The inspection lot is also
cancelled. Then follow steps 1 to 3. In the 4th step after saving the inspection plan, simply do the
GR again, It should work out.
Regards,
Jeong, Yeong-Chul
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