Install OS 9.2 on G4 MDD running Tiger
For some reason, though I have OS 9 seemingly installed and visible as a selection in my Start Up Disk, when clicking on it, it fails to start up, and I have to go through the trouble of restarting with the OS X install disc.
So what I'd like to do is to reinstall OS 9 - though I don't know how, exactly. Any step by step instructions would be greatly appreciated.
I have the OS 9 disc, and the OS 9.1 (or .2?) update disc, but I'm not sure how to go about it. Is this a 'clean install' where one is able to reinstall both OS X and 9 without erasing data on the Hard Disk? I hope I don't have to go through the Carbon Cloner or SuperDuper thing - whatever it is, because I found in the past they didn't do what they were supposed to, or I didn't do it right. I can, however, back up whatever data is necessary (System files) to an external drive.
I need OS 9 dual boot, because my video NLE application is OS 9 only, and my other MDD G4 has developed hardware problems, so I need to switch my projects to the above mentioned G4/MDD computer that doesn't boot to OS 9 at present. It also has a quieter powersupply, which is favorable. (Can I just reinstall the OS 9 without affecting anything else?) I have commitments to finish these projects,and try as I might, I am not at all comfortable or pleased with working with Final Cut Express. My very versatile OS 9 program, Cinestream, is what I'm proficient with.
Note: I have the retail OS 9 white install disc and I also have the model-specific (grey) OS 9 disc, # 3 of 4, Mac OS version 9.2.2, that comes with the MDD set. Which is preferable? I think I had trouble with one of them - the grey one, since it may be scratched and doesn't complete the install process - to my recollection.
Many thanks for assistance!
Look at the back of your machine:
If there is a Firewire 800 port, it can't boot into Mac OS 9.
If there is no Firewire 800 port, look at your System Profiler to see if Mac OS 9 drivers are installed.
If not, see if they are available on Disk Utility. If no Mac OS 9 drivers are installed, you can't boot into Mac OS 9.
Unfortunately to install the drivers you must first boot off an installer disc and erase the hard drive, and install the drivers at the time of install.
Then you install the Mac OS X operating system.
Then you restore the Mac OS 9 operating system.
I know it is a bad chicken and egg scenario, but that's how it works. At least you can have more than one internal hard drive.
And Mac OS X on PowerPCs does not support booting from USB either.
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