Install Panther on second hard drive (Leopard on first)?

My G4 desktop has two internal hard drives. I work on the first and use the second only for storage. I recently installed Leopard on the first drive, and all went well. After that installation, I decided to install Panther (10.3.9) on the second drive, using the original install disks. Could't do it; my machine wouldn't boot up from the installation disk.
On the advice of phone tech support, I took these steps:
disconnected everything from the G4, including keyboard, monitor, power cord
reset power management (held down power key for 15 seconds)
reconnected only power cord, keyboard, and monitor
reset PRAM on start up
put Panther install disk in CD drive
restarted, holding down "c" key
Same result: the Apple logo appears on a pale gray screen but nothing else happens.
What should I try next? I'm assuming it's possible for me to use the original Panther installation disk as the start-up disk and to install Panther on my second internal hard drive, while Leopard is on the first. But maybe that's not a correct assumption?
Will appreciate help.

Still can't get my G4 to recognize the original install Panther disks when I insert them into my CD drive and restart holding down the "C" key. I want to install Panther on my second internal hard drive; Leopard is installed on the main internal drive.
I have tried the following:
1) Reset Power Management (with everything unplugged)
2) Plugged power, keyboard, and monitor back in
3) Reset PRAM
4) Restarted and held down "C" key. Still could not get CD to recognize the CD. (Screen was pale gray with darker gray Apple logo; stopped there.)
5) Reset Power Management again (everything unplugged)
6) Plugged power, keyboard, monitor back in
7) Reset PRAM
8) Restarted and held down Option key. Chose "CD" when given that option. Still could not get CD to recognize the CD. (Screen was pale gray with darker gray Apple logo; stopped there.)
Any other actions I should try? One forum respondent suggested I take out the Leopard-based hard drive and install Panther on the remaining drive. Would rather not do that if I don't have to.
Help will be appreciated!

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