Install Tiger on Mac OS X Server

Actually there are two questions:
1) Is it possible to install X11 on Mac OS X Server 10.4.8 running on Dual 1.8GHz PPC G5?
2) If not, is it possible to install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4.5) using the install disk I got along with my MacBook Pro on the above machine?
I tried, but got a kernel panic. I desperately need to install X11 on the G5. Someone please help.

I don't know what I was doing earlier, but I could install X11 on the PPC G5 using the install disks that came along with the Intel Core Duo MacBook Pro using the optional installs mpkg.

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To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

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Some Macs while they have Firewire, don't support Target Disk Mode, nor Firewire booting. These Macs if they came with no DVD drive, and only a CD drive or CD-RW drive (as opposed to combo or superdrive), can only install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) if you:
1. Install a compatible internal DVD drive from which supports http://www.patchburn.de/ or other firmware that supports Mac OS X booting.
2. Find the original retail CD version of Mac OS X 10.4 that was available for a limited time called the Media Exchange Program CD.
These Macs include the Blue and White G3 desktop (non-iMac), and the PCI PowerMac G4 described below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The iMac G3 with built-in Firewire, iBook G3 with built-in Firewire, and AGP PowerMac G4 with built-in Firewire at least support Firewire booting and Target Disk Mode which would allow them to use an external optical DVD drive that supports Mac OS X booting.
If they didn't have an internal DVD drive.
Port #4 in this image below is a Firewire port:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.
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What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

Can I install Tiger on Mac OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard?

I am using Mac mini and my OS version MAC OS X 10.6.2 Snow leopard and it was as default with my Mac mini,
Can I install Tiger 10.4 on my current Mac mini in different location as dual boot?

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
No Mac can install an older Mac operating system than shipped with it.
The only minor exception is Macs which shipped with Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, but those ones only could run the Mac OS 9 that came with it and newer one, and Mac OS X that came with it and newer one up to the limitations of the hardware.
Also no Mac can install an operating system disc from a different Mac that is different either in model or vintage.
If you are missing compatibility with your new Mac Mini for a specific application, please check
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http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/
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Re: To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

I'd like to ammend this at the end and say:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.

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Installing iWork on Mac OS X Server

I've installed my copy of iWork '06 on Mac OS X Server because I need to be able to read some Pages files on the development box. It installed fine (no errors) but when I try to launch Pages I get weird behaviour from the App. It's screens won't render or when it does bring up the pages document window it is not usable.
Does anyone know if you are supposed to be able to run iWork on Mac OS X Server? (since the install did not stop it)

Ok. I've did a bit more debugging. Console shows the following when you launch Pages.
2007-06-03 16:57:15.388 Pages[21515] invalid pixel format
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2007-06-03 16:57:15.626 Pages[21515] invalid pixel format
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2007-06-03 16:57:15.683 Pages[21515] invalid pixel format
2007-06-03 16:57:15.684 Pages[21515] invalid context
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2007-06-03 16:57:15.688 Pages[21515] invalid context
2007-06-03 16:57:15.689 Pages[21515] invalid pixel format
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2007-06-03 16:57:15.796 Pages[21515] invalid context
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2007-06-03 16:57:15.798 Pages[21515] invalid context
2007-06-03 16:57:15.811 Pages[21515] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: * +[NSString stringWithCString:]: NULL cString
The Pages main document window does not show automatically. It seems to have problems raising it. Any clicks into the pages window or attempts to use it just show repeats of the above logs. From those messages I guess I will have to assume that the Server version of Mac OS X does not have some of the libraries needed by Mac OS X. Boooo!!!
Now I don't have any non-server Mac OS X machines here. Any know any apps that can convert Pages or Keynote files to Word or NeoOffice readable formats?

Can I install tiger on mac mini with intel core?

tech specs for mac mini model MMB139LL//AA iindicate ttiger iin ssoftware bbut I cant do clean install

You must use the 10.4.10 (8R3014) System Disc that came with that Mini, or a later OS X (Leopard, Snow Leopard) Retail Upgrade Disc to do a clean install.
See > Don't install a version of Mac OS X earlier than what came with your Mac

Mac OS X to Mac OS X Server Archive and Install

I bought the Tiger Server Box and need to install it onto an iMac to serve as a non-mission critical server, but there is some data on it that I would like to avoid having to backup. Can I perform an archive and install installation of Mac OS X Server over Mac OS X, while preserving all of my data and settings?

You don't need to do an archive install. You can install OSX server right on top of an existing OSX Install.
It is documented on the server install disk what to do if installing on an existing osx installation.
I installed Panther Server some time ago onto an existing Panther OS. I did not need to boot from the server install disk. I just ran an installer package.
I am sorry I can't be more specific but its been over a year since I did a server install.

Upgrading Mac OS X Server 10.6 to Mac OS X Server 10.6 to fix issues

I have a new XServe that was migrated from a G5 10.5 Server. Mac OS X 10.6.2 appears to have caused some issues which I did not realize until I attempted the 10.6.3 upgrade which utterly failed. It appears that 10.6.2 is not running many cli tools and in 10.6.3 I have found the entire var dir at least is incorrect. Tools in 10.6.2 that are not working include locate, ln, and man if not more.
I would like to reinstall. This server is bound to a AD server and I have read that you can upgrade 10.6 server to 10.6 server so I wanted to verify this as it would be the simplest way for me to do this.

I made a clone of the server boot drive and ran some test to see what was possible. This can be easily done by erasing a drive and then installing a fresh Mac OS X Server 10.6. Upon reboot supply the serial number and then it will ask to migrate the data and you can choose the existing install (in my case I had one clone with 10.6.2 and one with 10.6.3). After this I tested to see that the OS was in good shape unlike the 10.6.2 which was missing key unix functionality (man, ln, and others). I then updated with the Combo updater to 10.6.3 v1.1 and all was well.

Mac OS X Server: Can I install that in a Intel iMac running OS X Tiger?

Hello,
I really want to buy the Mac OS X Server Tiger Software, but before that I still have lots of questions, so here is just one question:
- How can I install that on my iMac Intel running Tiger OS X? Do I need to make a pertition of my MBR Hard Drive in order to be able to fully run Mac OS X Server on my 2Ghz Intel Mac?
Thank you, hope you got a solution for my problem.

> How can I install that on my iMac Intel running Tiger OS X
Umm, you mean other than inserting the DVD, double-clicking the 'Install Mac OS X Server' app and following the on-screen instructions?
>Do I need to make a pertition of my MBR Hard Drive in order to be able to fully run Mac OS X Server on my 2Ghz Intel Mac?
If you want to, sure. There's no need to do this, though. The only reason to create a separate partition is if you wanted to dual-boot your machine so that you could switch between Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server, but that's entirely optional.

Can I install OS X Server for Leopard on Macs running non-server Tiger?

I need to install OS X Server on a small business network of 5 Macs and 2 pc's. I need to run Mac software on the pc's using Aqua and need to use the pc's to run software that won't run on the Macs.
All my Macs run 10.4.11 (non-server), so what I need to know is will I be able to buy and install OS X Server (Leopard)? Or do I need to buy OS X Server (Tiger)?
And if I can use the Leopard Server version, can I also install it on my Macs at home that don't connect to the work network?
Thanks, Ted

I'm a little confused here.
I need to run Mac software on the pc's using Aqua
Running Mac OS X Server on the Macs won't help here. You can't run Mac software on a PC. The best you can do is screen-share (so the PC can run software that lets it see and control the Mac's screen), but you don't need Mac OS X Server for that.
All my Macs run 10.4.11 (non-server), so what I need to know is will I be able to buy and install OS X Server (Leopard)? Or do I need to buy OS X Server (Tiger)?
You can't but Mac OS X Server 10.4 at all now. It's been EOL for a year or more (I forget when Leopard was released now). Your only option is to buy Leopard Server.
As to whether you can install Leopard Server, that depends on the hardware you're running. If it meets (or exceeds) the minimum specifications for Mac OS X Server then yes, you can install it. Whether it will solve your goals depends on quite what those goals are.
And if I can use the Leopard Server version, can I also install it on my Macs at home that don't connect to the work network?
You can install it on any system you're licensed for. Since each copy of Mac OS X Server is licensed for a single system only, you'll need to buy additional licenses for your machine(s) at home.

You cannot install Mac OS X Server Update on this volume. (10.5.6)

I hope someone can help!
I started with 10.5.5, but was having lots of problems with MobileMe. I have downloaded 10.5.6 which I have heard is more stable but it won't allow me to install it with the following error message "You cannot install Mac OS X Server Update on this volume. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update." I have then downloaded 10.5.7 which installs fine but does not fix my original problem and I know it is less stable that 10.5.6. I have tried to install 10.5.6 again but same problem. Any ideas of what I have to do to my HD to make it happen?
The main problems I am having with MobileMe is registering the computer (it wont happen), syncing (it wont happen because the computer isn't registered), and publishing iweb updates.
Thanks, J

You downloaded the wrong updater version. You downloaded an updater for OS X Server but do not have OS X Server installed, hence the error. The 10.5.6 Combo Updater is here.
You will have to provide more information about the problem you are having with MobileMe. And, you should login to your MM account online so you can post your problem in their specific forums.
Before you install a system update I suggest you see the following:
How to Install OS X Updates Successfully
A. Repair the hard drive and permissions:
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now shutdown the computer for a couple of minutes and then restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
B. Make a bootable backup of your current working system:
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the startup or source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
C. Important: Please read before installing
1. If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
2. You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
3. The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. Download and install update(s):
1. Use Software Update, or
2. Download standalone updater(s).

Installing Tiger on Intel Mac, do I need a special install disk?

As in one that's specific to an Intel Mac as opposed to a PowerPC. Just trying to figure this all out.
Thanks for the help.

Hi there,
Yes you do, all the Tiger Install Disks for IntelMacs are Machine specific & Gray in color, add to that, if the IntelMac came with Leopard, then you cannot install Tiger on them. There never was a Retail Tiger Disk for IntelMacs, (maybe 10.4 Server, not sure on that one).

Oh no i need to install tiger server but i lost the install disks.

Oh no i need to install tiger server but i lost the install disks. I also could use Leopard server on another mac.

Yikes!... they sure want a lt for it...
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Not able to install mac os x server 10.5.4

Hello,
I've inherited a MAC g5 from a previous sys admin.
it had a number of issues so i decided to do a clean install.
i've set in my os x 10.5.4 server and rebooted that didn't work. when i chose the dvd it just hanged there.
so i installed a mac pro (came with the g5 ) as i've read in an online how to that described my exact problem. once done i tried installing the server again and same issue happened.
now i have mac pro on my g5.
after research it seems that my mac os x server 10.5.4 has another version which is older than the G5. so it cannot be installed.
i tried using a targeted mode though came into another set of trouble:
1. tried booting from the dvd using a macbook pro with a fire wire plugged into it.
result: macbook kept restarting when i chose the mac os x server
2. tried booting from dvd using an imac.
result: after choosing the dvd it hangs a bit and then boots normally from hardidisk.
3. picked an old IMAC and booted from it
result: it worked, and i installed the mac os x server on one of the HDD in my g5
once done, i've shut down both, unplugged firewire and then booted the G5
a grey screen appeared with another hdd in the middle of the screen and it just stayed there.
Can someone please advise how can i proceed?
PS: i've contacted the apple reseller, though as our support contract ended they couldn't help.

The retail disks I've seen in that era were usually black in color. The non-retail disks tended to be gray in color. IIRC, the part number for the 10.5.4 Mac OS X Server Leopard Server retail disk is MB605Z/A.
If it's not a retail disk, then the contents are usually tailored for a specific Mac box.
The MacBook Pro would have to be a fairly old model to boot 10.5.4; [here are the Mac Intel minimum OS version requirements (HT1159)|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1159], and (though there were no MBP PPC boxes AFAIK) [here are the PPC version requirements (HT2191)|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2191].
The "issues" that precipitated this reinstallation sequence could well be a disk or processor or memory or other hardware problem with the server, too.

Can I install Tiger on a G4 using Mac Pro or MacBook Pro install discs?

I gave my old G4 dual500MHz processor running system 9.2.2 to my brother some time ago and he really wants to upgrade to tiger. I bought a copy of Tiger when it first came out but I have lost the disc. I currently have 3 macs and they're all intel machines so I don't have install discs on hand that are pre-intel. I would like to do a complete overhaul of the G4 but I am worried that the install discs I currently have might not work on it. I also have Disk Warrior and Drive Genius and plan to run them extensively on that machine as well. If not, can I start the G4 up as a target disc and do the install from my mac pro? Or is there a way to download a disc image of the older system and install it that way?

If you bought a retail copy of Tiger & are not using it for another Mac, you do hold a Tiger OS license you could transfer to your brother legally. However, your brother still will need disks that install the PPC version of the OS for it to be installed on the G4, & for troubleshooting or some maintenance tasks. Intel-specific installer disks do not meet this requirement.
If you can document your purchase (like if you have a receipt for it from an authorized Apple dealer or the proof-of-purchase certificates) you may be able to purchase a replacement disk through Applecare.

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