Install Tiger over Firewire?

My friend's iBook has just fried itself. He can't reinstall Mac OS X Tiger either. He gets a blank blue screen with a cursor when he starts up the iBook normally and when he puts in the Install discs.
I was thinking if its possible for him to connect his iBook to mine through Firewire and possibly if I could retrieve his files and do a reinstall of Tiger for him through Firewire?
Is this viable?

Providing your friend's hard drive is not damaged this will be possible.
With both machines off connect a 6-pin firewire cable between the two machines.
Start your machine as normal and allow it to complete booting.
Hold down the T key on the second machine and power it on - you should now see moving FireWire symbols on the display and the hard drive should mount on your machine.
Copy any files you want from the second machine to yours, put the X installer disk in your machine and follow the on screen prompts.
Make sure you select the second Mac's hard drive for installation - it will default to yours. You could archive or erase and install but you should be able to clear the fault simply by installing over the top.
Note that if your installer disk has an older version of Tiger than the installed one you will have to erase or archive the original system.
Good luck!

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Installing tiger over os 10.0.2 and os 9.2

i'm really confused about this because i have had several different opinions about what will happen to my existing os's when i install tiger. to make sure i've been told correctly before i screw something up. the thing is, i need to keep os 9 on my computer because all of my graphic programs work with it (illust. photoshop, etc.) if i install tiger over this, will i not be able to use os 9, or switch to it in the start up disk and reboot?
is it true that i can't use the 'upgrade' feature because it only works with os 10.2 and up? would this be the safest option for me, so should i purchase the 10.2 upgrade and install the tiger upgrade from there? if so, where can i find the 10.2 upgrade?
re: archive and install feature...would i need at least the 10.2 operating system, too? if it archives your older os, can you ever reboot in an older os? if not, can you easily access the older os 9 to use the graphics files? any known complications of reading older files created in os 9 after the install of tiger?
sorry to sound so stupid about these things, but i'm a designer and therefore technically challenged! thanks for your help!

artsenthusiast1:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
You are correct in that Archive and Install is only available for OS X 10.2 and later.
To install Tiger your computer will need to meet the minimum system requirements for Tiger.
You will also need to purchase the Full Retail version of Tiger.
Be aware that Computer specific or upgrade versions should be avoided as they can cause problems. Besides, it may be a violation of the Software License Agreement which statesThis License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time...
This is how I would go about accomplishing what you want to do:
1. I would backup my entire HDD to an external FireWire Hard Disk Drive.
2. Then I would completely wipe the HDD and reinstall beginning with OS 9 then Tiger.
3. Then I would move back my data and third party apps from my backup.
Please post back with further questions or comments.
Good luck.
cornelius

How to install Tiger OVER Leopard?

Hi everyone,
So i just bought the brand spanking new Macbook Pros from the apple dealer the other day. I must say that i like it alot, but it came pre-installed with Leopard 10.5.
Now dont get me wrong, 10.5 is wonderful but i dont think i am ready for it yet because none of my programs that i use are compatible with it. As a result, i have a great computer with no programs to run.
I have decided i want to reinstall 10.4 back onto my harddrive and wipe out Leopard. I couldnt find anywhere in the apple shop that sold 10.4 (most likely because they are trying to phase it out), but i did find a copy of the Tiger installation disc that came with the PowerMac G5 (pre-intel) a few years ago.
I tried installing it, but it said "this program cannot be installed on this operating software". I basically just inserted the CD and double clicked "install" but i have a feeling the only way to get around this is to boot up the installation disc as a bootable disc, which i dont know how to do.
I have two quick questions for the seasoned veterans out there:
1) How do i install Tiger over my Leopard?
2) This is my first time using an Apple that is intel chip. Does Tiger have any complications with it?
Thanks so much guys, i really look forward to your responses.
P.

You will have to contact AppleCare to obtain the Tiger installation discs required for your model. You cannot use a retail Tiger installation DVD or one from any PPC model. They will not work.
You might check with the software developers of your software to see if Leopard compatible versions aren't already available. Otherwise you might look for similar software that is compatible.
Most PPC-only software will run on Intel Macs via Rosetta emulation automatically.
If you do obtain the proper Tiger installation discs from AppleCare and decide to install it, then you will need to do an Archive and Install:
How to Perform an Archive and Install
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger, 4.1 for Leopard) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger, 4.6.2 for Leopard) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

Internet sharing from mountain lion to tiger over firewire

Hi, I have just purchased an imac g4 from ebay and am having trouble getting it to connect to the internet.
My internet connection comes from teathering my iphone over wifi to my MBP. I have been trying to share this connection from my macbook to my imac over firewire but haven't had any luck.
I've tried connecting direct to my phone over wifi but I don't get an ip address, the same happens when I share the connection from my laptops wi-fi.
I have connected to a hotspot with the imac so i know that the wi-fi works and i can get a connection over firewire that says "You are connected to the internet via built in firewire" but when i try and load a webpage i cannot load anything.
When connected via firewire my macbook shows up in the network tab of the finder, my shared itunes library shows up and my laptop comes up in the list of devices in my VNC but when i try to use these connections it always fails, i cannot even get a ping responce from my laptop.
Im not sure if it is a compatibility issue with M lion and tiger, an IP address issue or something els entirely.
All help would be greatly appriciated
Thanks in advanced
Jake

If you use your MacBook Pro as the "server" connected to the Internet. you can connect 27" 2011 iMac to your MacBook Pro via a FireWire 800 cable. (assuming your MBP has a FireWire output, I don't own one).By using Target Disk Mode (Hold down the "T" key until you see "spinning gears" on Restart or Start-up).
Your MBP will appear as a Hard Disk on your 27" display or your 27" iMac can be displayed as a Hard disc on your MBP display.
Switch the firewall off on both machines (if it was on) to see if it helps;
Try to connect using a different device to the shared connection (another computer, smartphone, iPad, etc.);
Use an open connection first (no password), before trying with WEP;
Reverse the roles of the two computers (i.e. try sharing the connection from the MBP to the iMac).
Also, more details might help (OS X version on the machines, whether you are trying to share a wired connection, installed software which might interact with the network connections, etc.)
Hope this helps in some way.

Installing Tiger via Firewire?

Hi,
So in a previous thread I asked about installing Tiger. I now have a Tiger DVD, but since I don't have a DVD drive in my iMac, I've decided to use FireWire Target Disk Mode. But I have a couple of questions:
1. Has anyone tried this and its worked, or
2. Has anyone tried this and had problems?
3. Can I do an Archive and Install?
4. Will it mess up my mac in any way?
Thanks in advance!

Hi there,
1. Yes
2. No problems.
3. Yes.
4. not if you Verify and Repair if needed your Disk first... and you have +2 GB of Free space on the Target Drive.
5. You turn the other Mac into an expensive Firewire Optical Drive by inserting the Install Disc into it, booting it into FW Target Mode…
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583
Then booting the iMac with thee Option/alt key held down, then waiting for the OInstall Disc in the other Mac to show up as a Boot option.

Cannot install tiger over panther, help

I have an emac 800mhz and i tried to install tiger on it but it said something like "kernel panic, we are hanging here." Please help. Regards -Ben

Hi Ben, is it Black or Gray?
What is the 2z691-****-A number on it?
Tiger Requirements...
To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs:
    * A PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
    * Built-in FireWire
    * At least 256 MB of RAM (I recommend 1GB minimum)
    * DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation
    * At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools (I recommend 20GB minimum)

Best way to install Tiger over 9.1

My sister has a slot loading iMac 400 with 9.1 installed. It has the Firmware 4.1.9. The problem is she has files from Appleworks scattered about in different locations, pictures saved as attachments in Eudora & just a general mess. Ideally, I'd like to do an Erase & Install, but she'd lose to much. Is it a good or bad idea to leave 9 on there & install Tiger or is there a better way. She only has a 20GB HD. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Hello Joe,
Thanks for the reply.
1) Should I upgrade to the latest 9.2.2 first
Yes I would I have found that 9.2.2 is a more stable environment
2) She has a retail Tiger DVD,
I installed Jag by simply inserting the disc and do a basic install. The computer will create a new OS system right on the HD. The great thing is she will then be able to select if she wants to boot into 9 or X. This will allow her to use the computer as if there were no changes but she will also be able to boot to X. Once she boots into X she can get used to using the new OS. When she is in X if she tries to open an existing file that was created in 9, the machine goes into a "classic mode" and will allow her to work on the file. It is as if she is using 9 and X and the same time.
I must admit that I often boot into 9 and run the computer as it was. We must realize that sooner or later most people will have to use X. I find that certain web-sites won't support 9 any more. So to me having both systems is the best of both worlds.
Just insert the DVD and follow the prompts. It is really easy.
Another hint. Take A screen shot of your TCP/IP and /or Internet settings. I find that having these numbers and info will help when you set up X for the internet. If unsure how to do this....use the following 3 keys
"shift apple 3 " or shift apple 4. This will take a picture of the settings. As you probably know...the settings I am talking about are found under the apple. Go under the apple to control panels...then to internet and/or....internet.
This will help you when you set up for the new OS.
Any other questions...post back.......Go for it....She'll like it. Eventually she can upgrade the computer if needed......Take Care......mGb.......Jim

Install tiger over leopard?

I have an iMac G5 with 2 gigs of ram and have noticed a very slow OS after installing Leopard (archive and install) over Tiger 10.4.10. I would like to just go back to Tiger and forget about Leopard, but is there a direct way to go back to Tiger without an erase and install?
I used Super Duper to create a backup before installing Leopard; and I have all the important stuff like iPhoto, iTunes, docs, etc. on a second (separate) backup.
Should I try an erase and install of Leopard, wait for OS 10.5.1, or just go back to Tiger?
Thanks for any help
Message was edited by: go_bucks!
Message was edited by: go_bucks!

Look your computer is running slow because like most people your computer did not have proper maintenance prior to to installing Leopard. A computer is like your car it needs maintenance. Now that you have already installed Leopard, it is best to what until the three maintenance programs update for Leopard They are Cocktail, TechTools Pro and DiskWarrior. You may try running the Apple Disk Utility from your Leopard start up disk. In the utility highlight your hard drive and click on the Repair Disk button. This many help you for the time being. You should always have a second backup hard drive with a Full Mac OS system installed on it. You will install the maintance software on both your main hard drive and your backup drive, When you see a problem with your computer you switch to the backup hard and run the maintenance programs on your main hard drive. I have been working on the Mac for 22 year. Good luck!

Tips for Installing Tiger over OSX 10.3.9

I've been using OSX 10.3 since I bought my G4 a couple of years back. I recently purchased the Tiger upgrade CD and I'm ready to update my OS except this is the first time I've done a full upgrade since switching to OSX. Does anyone have any good tips or suggestions before I make the upgrade?
1) Will upgrading to Tiger cause any problems with my existing iLife applications (iPhoto, etc) that came with my computer? Will they still run in Tiger of will I need to repurchase them?
2) What is the recommended install? Is doing an archive and install safe?
3) Any other potential pitfalls I should look out for?
Thanks.
Mac G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi Todd,
in addition to Kappy's link to 10.4 Tiger Upgrade: Decision tree+Checklist, make sure you buy the retail full install DVD. In order to upgrade from 10.2.x to 10.4.x I suggest you use the Archive&Install option.
Once you sucessfully upgraded, Repair permissions and then download and apply the Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 Combo PPC.
Good luck!

Install OS over firewire

I have a G4 dual 1.25 G MDD with one gig of ram. I'm going to sell this computer and want to totally erase it. After kernel panics when attempting to restart from a CD or DVD, I've restarted holding the T key down so I could access the computer from my Mac Pro. From the G5, I erased and re-partitioned the drive using Disk Utility.
Question: how do I now install an OS on the G4? When restarting my Mac Pro from the install disk, I can't install onto the G4. I hope this makes sense, I'm sure I'm missing something. I have install disks for the G4 and the Mac Pro...
Thanks,
Kurt.

how do I now install an OS on the G4?
Insert the Power Mac G4's installation disk into the Mac Pro and try starting up the Mac Pro in target disk mode.
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Installing Tiger on Powerbook G4's new hard drive

The hard drive in my G4 PB (bought 2nd hand, without start up disks) died recently and I got a used replacement HD with same volume and speed. Physical replacement and partition went ok, now to install the Tiger 10.4. However the black Tiger disk seems to be defective, as I get a failure due to fingerprints or scratches; the software will not install after cleaning and polishing the disk. Fortunately, I have an iMac Snowball running 10.4.11 and hooked it up by Firewire. The Apple website has a "MacOSXUpdateCombo10.4.11PPC.dmg" which is sitting on my desktop. (I accidently tried to open it and it screwed up my System Preferences Start up Disk choice, giving me the flashing earth in a square on a grey screen error. That took some detours but is fixed.)
So, it seems logical that I could take the .pkg update and drop it into the Target Disk Hard Drive showing up on the desktop. Or, maybe open the hard drive symbol and drop the update into it. After searching the Support Communities all day today, I cannot find a discussion along these lines, so here I am. Can anyone help on this?

2) If you look at the updater you will see it is likely only a few tens if maybe 100 MB, a full Tiger OS is several GB (it originally came on multiples CDs).
1) I'm not 100% clear on your resources. If your USB backup was created by cloning you could start the PB in Target mode so it appears on your iMac as an external hard drive, then clone the USB to the PB. Here's some information:
How To: Installing Tiger Using FireWire Target Disk Mode - http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/more/os_x_odyssey_752_how_to_installing_tige r_using_firewire_target_disk_mode/
How to use FireWire target disk mode - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661 - includes description of hardware and software requirements.
Target Disk Mode - Mac OS X 10.6 Help: Transferring files between two computers using FireWire - http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8443.html
What to do if your Mac doesn't enter FireWire Target Disk Mode - http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75414, also read about [Open Firmware Password Protection|http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/openfirmwarepassword.html] which can disable Target Disk Mode.

How do I install Tiger on a G3 iMac via Firewire?

I want to install Tiger on to my slot loading (CD drive) iMac, via my DVD drive-equipped Powerbook and Firewire.
But how do I put both computers in Firewire 'target mode' to do this?

Turn them both off, connect a 6-pin FireWire cable between them.
Start up the PowerBook (with the mains adapter plugged in) and allow it to complete.
Insert the installer DVD and restart from the "Install OS X" alias on the DVD, allow to complete restart again.
Start the iMac with the T key held down and you should get moving FW symbols on it's screen and it's hard drive will mount on the PowerBook.
Select the iMac's hard drive from the installer and complete install. The system will then reboot to the new install on the iMac.
Shut down the iMac and the PowerBook, disconnect the cable and reboot both. You may want to hold down the option key on the PowerBook and select it's internal drive as the startup disk. You can do this in system prefs after booting anyway - I've seen this setting get confused on some target installs.
Good luck!

Can you install tiger on a power mac g4 with out a DVD drive if so how, I do have have a 2011 iMac can I use that in target disk mode with a FireWire cable any help would be appreciated

Can you install tiger on a power mac g4 with out a DVD drive if so how, I do have have a 2011 iMac can I use that in target disk mode with a FireWire cable any help would be appreciated

Hello,
You need to put the Tiger Install Disc in the 2011 iMac, boot the 2011 uMac into Target mode...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661
Boot the G4 holding the Option or alt key, hopefully the Install Disc in the 2011 iMac will show as a boot choice.
We just want to use the 2011 iMac as a big expensive FW Optical drive, it cannot be installed osing the 2011 iMac itself.

Tiger doesn't install on external firewire disk (partition)

hi, i've got a Lacie Porche 250GB firewire drive, partitioned in two parts, and i want to install tiger on the first 50GB partition, but the installer give me an error about the destination: "You cannot install Mac OS X on this volume. Mac OS X cannot start up from this volume."
i'm trying to do this with an ibook G4 and the standard Tiger DVD Install.
the external firewire disk is formatted in HFS+
please help me
iMac Intel\iBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

A boot disk for the Intel Macs needs to have a GUID Partition Table, the G4 needs the "Apple Partition Map". If you formatted the drive on your Intel Mac, you may need to repartition for the G4. In the "Partition" tab in Disk Utility, use the "Options..." button to choose the partitioning. Backup any data on the drive that you need, first.

URGENT: Install Tiger on iBook without CD Drive or Firewire Drive

Help!!
I have an iBook which needs Tiger installing.
However, the CD drive has pack up, and I dont have a Firewire External CD player, only a USB one.
Is there a way i can connect another Mac to the iBook by firewire cable and use that CD drive to install Tiger on the iBook?
Any help, advice would be massively appreciated
Glenn

These installs will work subject to license agreement:
1. Connect an external firewire drive to any machine.
2. Boot off CD and install on external firewire drive.
3. Clone back to same machine or move said hard drive internally into same
machine if it has the same interface inside the Firewire enclosure as inside the machine.
1. Setup an iMac G4 1.25 Ghz in Target mode with a broken optical drive.
2. Boot off Leopard on a second iMac G4 1.25 Ghz and connect the machine in step one to the machine in step 2.
3. Install Leopard or Tiger.
1. Boot off Firewire DVD drive the Leopard or Tiger installer.
2. Install Leopard on the same machine the drive is connected to.
These types of install will NOT work:
1. Setup an iBook G4 1.25 Ghz in target mode with a broken optical drive.
2. Boot off an iBook G4 1 Ghz and connect the machine step one to the machine in step 2.
3. Install Leopard or Tiger
1. Install on an external firewire hard drive from an iBook G4 1 Ghz Leopard or Tiger.
2. Connect an iBook G4 1.25 Ghz to the hard drive in step 1.
3. Clone back from the hard drive Leopard or Tiger (whichever is installed) or if the firewire hard drive case was a 2.5" hard drive Parallel ATA move the hard drive into the iBook.
The reason is that each vintage Mac, and each Mac model has distinct drivers.
In Target mode, the target machine (the machine you held the T key down) is assumed by the installer to be nothing more than an external drive to be a machine with the same configuration of the host machine because that's the only machine's firmware it can detect.
And by "work" I mean, the installation may appear it succeeds but circumstances such as kernel panics, and unsuccessful upgrades later will make the whole effort in vain.
Either replace the internal optical drive or attach an external Firewire DVD drive to install on a machine whose optical drive is broke, or get an identical Mac model to install using Target Disk Mode. If you don't have an identical machine, don't waste your effort on what can become an even worse install than had you left everything alone.

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