Installation Master DVD Distributed Java System Copy menu missing

Hello Gurus
We want to perfom an Java system copy of our EP 6.0 using sapinst
The source OS is Solaris 8.0 with Oracle 10.2.0.2
The target OS is Solaris 10.0 with Oracle 10.2.0.2
Our architecture is Distributed , CI is running on a system and DB server on another system.
For this operation we use the master DVD 51033746_12 but we have an issue in exporting the DB as the
Option for exporting the DB on a Distributed system is not displayed on the sapinst Menu .
We followed the last guide taken from sap 'Homogeneous and Heterogeneous System Copy for SAP Systems Based on SAP Web Application Server Java 6.40 SR 1' and this option should be listed
Excerpt:
Choose the installation service SAP NetWeaver u201904 Support Release 1--> Java System --><DB> --> Distributed System --> Migration - Database Export.
Unfortunately the Distributed system is not displayed and though we are stuck at the export step .
I could not find any sapinst patches . Is it a known issue for Soalris system and is there a Workaround .
Thanks for your help
De Palma Lionel .

Hello
Thanks for your answer . Unfortunately this option is not available as we are using a NW04 SR1 system , not a nw'2004's one . With the latest master install (Installation_Master_6.20_6.40_05_08 51033746_5 )we have the choice of
System copy Source --> Java system --> oracle --> Migration Data export
--> HA Java system --> oracle --> Migration Data export
System copy Target --> Java system --> oracle --> Central system-> Migration Data export
Target --> Java system --> oracle --> Distributed system -> Migration Target Central instance / Db instance install
The Distributed system is available for Import option but no for the export one .
My questions are :
- Can we use a master nw2004's master DVD for system copy on a Nw'04s one ?
- As the central instance is hosted on different system than DB instance , should I use the HA option ?
Regards

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Installation Master (Edition Sept. 2006)" DVD using SAPCAR.
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/usr/sap/SAPinst/NW04/COPY/EXPORT/JAVA/COPY/EXP , and restart the EP
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Hi Swamy,
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Jgen Pfeiffer wrote:>
> Hi!
>
> I am about to do post processsing steps after system copy of SAP BW system.
>
> 1) One of the steps is to delete all entries from tables DBSTATHORA, DBSTAIHORA, DBSTATIORA,
> DBSTATTORA.
> Question: what is the way to do this?
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>
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>
> Question:
> how to create index manually after system copy?
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