Installed Tiger, DVD SP 2 Refuses to work

Installed Tiger on 4 Macs, 3 G5's and one iMac. DVDSP 2 runs fine on the iMac and two of the G5's. It opens on the other, but completely freezes up for the most part. Only shows one window and I can't get it to open any other windows. I tried a re-install after first deleting all of the existing DVDSP files on the machine. Same result after a fresh install.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong?

Thanks for the info on this. I had installed the ProApp last month, but DVD SP 2 started crashing and hanging this month. Had to hunt around to try and figure out if there was a conflict but after reinstalling ProApp things seem to be back to normal. I don't use DVD SP 2 often enough to know the day that it stopped working, but it might have been related to a Tiger upgrade -- anyone have a similar problem after an upgrade?
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Tower only has CD Drive, can't install Tiger DVD

Obviously I could go buy an external DVD Drive. This was the answer I got when asking Applecare if there was a way for me to install my Tiger DVD onto my Powermac G4 Tower with only a CD Drive. I know there are other ways around this problem. I called the Apple Store, and they informed me that Apple will send a CD version that I can install for a nominal fee. This is better.
But I searched some more and someone mentioned that I could take certain files from the Tiger DVD (on another computer with a DVD drive) and burn them to a CD and just use that.
Is this possible? If so, which files are necessary to achieve this?
Thanks in advance

Hello Brad.
I don't know about taking certain files only from the Tiger DVD and burning them to CD - not sure how anyone made this work so your best options are as follows:
Use the Media Exchange Program to exchange your DVD media for CD media or if you have access to another Mac with Firewire and a DVD drive, you can connect the two computers via Firewire Target Disk mode which will allow you to install Tiger from the Mac with the DVD drive on the Mac without.

Installing Tiger (dvd) with sony external firewire DVD drive

Helo all,
Can anyone tell me if the B/W G3 can boot up an OS X CD from an external firewire or USB DVD Room.
I want to upgrade my machine to Tiger but not having any luck with getting it to recognize the external DVD Rom on boot up.
It recognizes it with no problem once the OS is installed and logged into a user profile but the entire time during boot up I can't get it to boot from the drive.
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T - Firewire Target Mode
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Is there anything else I can try other then trying to find an IDE internal hard drive to plug into this machine?

B&Ws can not boot from Firewire drives.
Most Pioneer drives are bootable if installed internally. Certain other brands are also bootable (internally).
This page has Mac user reviews of different DVD drives in various Mac models.
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

Trying to install Tiger, DVD won't mount

I just bought the upgrade for Tiger. They sent it out on DVD. Fine, no problem I thought because I have a Sony DVD RW DW-U10A the so-called SuperDrive that reads DVD's.
I can get a data and audio CD to mount up with no problems. I can't get any DVD to. It inserts but ejects after about 15 to 30 seconds. I can here it kind of clicking around, but not the big windy spin up that the CD has. Is there a reason why a CD would mount, but not a DVD? I've read everything I can since yesterday around 1:30 and while there seems to be a LOT of us with the same/similar issue, I don't see any 'AHA this fixed it' answers. Is it a bad drive?
I've tried booting up holding the C. I've reset the PRAM and VPRAM. I thought I'd be creative and inserted the DVD in my PC to share it across the network but the PC wouldn't read it either.
Any ideas? If it's bad and so many people have issues, why didn't it get recalled? Why isn't Apple addressing the issue? I see nothing in the tech articles that addresses the problem even though there are many, many posts here on the forum.
Is purchasing a new DVD drive the only option? That hardly seems ideal when I've spent my extra budget on the OS upgrade. I didn't budget for required new hardware.
Any help would be MOST appreciated. I was so excited about the upgrade...and now after all this time, I'm just depressed and frustrated.

I can try that. I called the 'local' Apple store in my area and they suggested replacing the driver. That would be fine and good, however the original iMac disks are also DVD's.
Where else could I find that driver to reinstall? I purchased the Apple Care at the same time as the computer and never used it. I installed the Tech Tool and am running the diagnostics, but so far everything appears fine.
Does someone have that driver or can lead me to a location that has it so I can reinstall and see if that helps?

I have an external dvd burner, is it compatible to install Tiger dvds from?

My dvd recorder is an external one and I have recorded dvd's from imovie using it but would it be compatible to install system software from?
Elaine

I actually just read an article in the magazine MacLife which tells you how to boot from an external USB drive in the event that your drive is not firewire. Apparently Apple added USB boot support shortly after the AGP graphics G4 and the G3 slot-loading iMac came out around 1999--so the support is there, it's just that individual types of drives may hide it from you.
For the workaround for cloning to and booting from a USB drive go to
http://www.maclife.com/article/imhaving_trouble_booting_my_powermac_g4_from_an_external_usb_drive_can_youhelp

Installing tiger on an ibook w/o dvd, but using target disc mode?

so here is the problem. i bought tiger for my ibook (g3 500mhz 312 mb airport cd drive...) so i found out the hard way that i can not install tiger dvd on my ibook (it has a cd drive.) so i was thinking and booted it up in target disc mode on my g4 tower running 10.2.8 the hard drive came up on the g4 and i installed sucessfully tiger on to the ibook! i was really excited that it worked. (i really didn;t want to order the cd set from apple)
so i went to start and download updates and it didn't connect. so i went to configure the airport and had a ton of problems. it just won't! airport will not recgonize any networks, and i have done it all to configure it. the ibook sees the card too!
so i took the card out of the ibook and installe dit in tehg4 tower and bravo it works just fine, so the problem is not the card at all.
i then took the ibiik to firsttech (an apple store) and they booted it up in network mode and the card worked just fine! they think that because i installed tiger fro a computer that was not running an airport network that it did not install that part of the software. this i do not believe becaust all of the airport stuff is there to configure, the problem is it just won't.
so to make things more interesting the screen will freeze. and after that when i reboot the ibook the screen is dead. and it stays dead for a while so this is just a pain. i try to reboot it in target disc mode but the icon does not show up on the host computer. i can run system profiler and the g4 will see the ibook as a firewire device in target disc mode, but i just can't see it on the desktop. i can hear the hard drive running, and i get the chime so i know it is on.
so i know that the problem is probably tiger as i know that there have some problems with it. but i just don't get it. b4 i reinstall 10.2 can anyone give me any help fixing tiger?
THANKS!
SEAN
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g4 tower Mac OS X (10.4.8) ibook! g3 too

Hi sean,
first of all: WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSIONS!
You probably did the target-disk install the wrong way round. If you booted the G4 from the install DVD and from there installed Tiger to the G3 iBook you have installed the G4 hardware drivers which are not compatible with the iBook.
You have to do it this way:
Insert the install DVD into the G4. Start the G4 into target disk mode by holding down the t-key during boot. Connect the G4 to the iBook using a firewire cable. Now boot the iBook while holding down the option-key. This will bring you into the boot manager where you can select the install DVD as boot-volume.
Once the installer has started perform an Archive&Install to the iBook hard disk. This should solve your problem.
Remember: Repair permissions before and after an update!
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Just installed tiger, can't shutdown

Hi I just installed Tiger on my Emac. It works great. Just that when I initiate shut down,screen stays on. everything quits o.k. after finder quits all I have is the desktop picture, and the computer stays on.
I am able to shutdown by pressing power button and since all apps closed o.k. there is no data loss. I do not have Classic running when this happens. I have restarted from Tiger disk and run "verify" and "repair" disk permissions.
Any other ideas what is going on?
thanks

Also, I would try using Disk Utility to repair your startup disk (hard drive) as shown in Dr.Smokes Resolving Disk, Permission, and Cache Corruption.
Repairing the hard drive is different then Repairing Permissions.
Here's a no shutdown tip sheet that covers what macjack helpfully provided in more detail;
This is for a Mac that won't shut down. Launch Activity Monitor (or Process Viewer if you're running a pre-Panther OSX) and see if there are any active applications besides Activity Monitor ( items with icons next to the name), select them, and click Quit Process.
If an app won't quit by clicking Quit, click Force Quit. Then try shutting down again.
If that does'nt work start killing off system-managed programs ( items without icons ) . Be sure to quit only the programs your user account is running; don't quit anything identified as "root" or "nobody" in the User column- and whatever you do, don't quit any of the following : loginwindow, Window Server, ATSServer, or SystemUIServer, which make up the foundation of Mac OS.
Quit one process at a time, and then shut down after each kill until you find success!
I wish you luck!
p.s.If you install two of a single user licensed third-party application on different computers which are networked, this symptom may occur. If that is the case, a solution is to perform "Erase and Install" for both computers.
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I recently installed Tiger and now DVDSP won't work. I've dumped every trace of the program and reinstalled and still it doesn't work. I've also dumped Preferences. I'm open to suggestion. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it.
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Go to Apple's web site and download the latest pro apps update for Tiger. 3.1 I believe.
At the very least after installing everything run the software updater.
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Tiger/Panther install problems - won't boot from Tiger DVD or Panther CD

My Mum has an iMac G3 CRT, running at 500MHz, with 1GB RAM, a 20GB HD, & a slot-loading internal CD-RW.
The iMac in question is the model described here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac500indigo.html
She only uses the machine for email & web browsing, but because it runs OS 9, it won't run a modern web browser (it's stuck on Internet Explorer 5.1.7) so lots of websites don't load properly or work at all. This is fair enough as IE for the Mac hasn't been updated since 2001.
My idea was to upgrade the machine from OS 9.2.2 to (ideally) 10.4.11, or failing that, 10.3.9, which would then let her use the current version of Safari, or possibly even Firefox. (Any thoughts on which would be easier for a currently IE-using technically-challenged pensioner would be welcome, although I prefer Safari myself, despite its shortcomings).
The iMac only had it's original 128MB of RAM until recently, but I persuaded her that it would be a good idea to spend 70-odd Pounds on 1GB of RAM so that OS X could not only be installed (which would let a modern browser be used) but would run at a useable speed. The minimum requirement for Panther is 128MB of RAM, but I suspected that it would run like treacle on a 128MB G3, and I was hoping to go for Tiger anyway, which requires 256MB.
As Tiger comes on a DVD (I have the retail/generic version) and the iMac has no DVD drive, I borrowed a friends external LaCie FireWire DVD-RW drive (the Porsche styled one). The DVD mounted first time, and the Startup Disk control panel let me select it.
When I restarted, I got the initial OS X pale grey screen with the dark grey Apple logo in the centre, with the spinning circle thing below, but after a minute or so, I could hear the DVD stop spinning in the drive, and a few seconds later the dark grey Apple logo changed into a dark grey "circle with a line through it" logo, with the normal circle thing still spinning below. This is how things stayed for many minutes, so I just restarted with the external drive off, and eventually got back to a normal 9.2.2 boot-up.
Next I tried running the "Mac OS X Install" application on the Tiger DVD from within 9.2.2. This started and came up with a big Tiger logo screen with a button labelled "Restart". Clicking it brought up an OS 9 error dialogue though, which said something along the lines of "the Tiger DVD cannot be selected as the startup disk" with a number 2 in brackets at the end of the error message - like this: (2)
This error occurs both if I select the Tiger DVD in the Startup Disk control panel prior to running the "Mac OS X Install" application, or if I select the internal hard disk. I know the DVD isn't faulty, as I used it to successfully boot my own Mac (a Power Mac G4 Mirror Drive Doors) just the other day, in order to repair permissions on the startup disk.
At this point I gave up on Tiger and tried to use the first of 3 Panther CDs that I have. These 3 CDs are burnt copies that came with my own Mac and contain version 10.3.2.
The CD refused to be selectable in the Startup Disk control panel. It's icon was greyed out, and so I couldn't boot from it. I tried running the "Install Mac OS X" application on the CD from within OS 9, but got the same error with the 2 in brackets when I clicked the "Restart" button, just like with the Tiger DVD.
Initially, I suspected that these Panther discs might be machine-specific, rather than the retail/generic version, because of the first CD being greyed-out in the Startup Disk control panel, but then the error dialogue that matched the one I got when I tried the Tiger DVD makes me think that my Panther CDs might be generic after all. Examining the first CD on my own Mac, it appears to be generic, but I'm not 100% sure, as the CDs are copies and as such don't have the usual identifying information on the labels. There are no machine-specific files that I can find on the first CD, which is dated January 9th 2004.
Various websites mention that when Tiger was current, Apple would swap a retail copy of the DVD for a set of CDs. I've looked on eBay but not been able to find any. This doesn't surprise me though, as there will be very few copies of Tiger on CD out there, and even fewer copies that people would want to sell.
There are a few retail copies of Panther available on CD, but if my current burnt copies of these discs are in fact generic, then buying a new set would make no difference. Besides, I'd prefer to use Tiger.
The Tiger minimum requirements (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514) say:
"To use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, your Macintosh needs: DVD drive (DVD-ROM), Combo (CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or SuperDrive (DVD-R) for installation"
What it doesn't say though, is whether the DVD drive has to be an internal one with Apple firmware/modifications, or whether an external 3rd party one will do. However, I know from various websites that it's possible to load Tiger onto this sort of Mac, and sometimes even older non-FireWire Macs, despite what the minimum system requirements say.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd be much obliged!
Thanks.

The problem is now solved, but I'm not sure how I managed it, unfortunately.
Having read the article at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75430, I checked both my Tiger DVD and my first Panther CD, and neither had the firmware updater on them, despite what the article said, so I downloaded it. However I was sure I'd applied a firmware update to the iMac a long time ago, and the 4.1.9 version number seemed familiar.
When I checked, I had in fact already applied the firmware update a few years ago!
I tried running the "Mac OS X Install" application on the Tiger DVD from within 9.2.2 again, and got the same error message as before. I was wrong about the error code though. It was minus 2 in brackets, not 2 in brackets.
The full text of the error message is:
An error occurred.
"Startup Disk was unable to select the
install CD as the startup disk. (-2)"
I tried selecting the DVD manually in the Startup Disk control panel (as before) and running the application again gave the same error message (also as before).
I then went into Extensions Manager to see if there was anything there that might be interfering with things. The only thing that caught my eye was the LaCie SilverLining control panel (which I think was version 6.4.5a). This was something that originally came on a floppy disk accompanying an external hard drive that I used to use years ago at a place I worked, and I used to find it invaluable back in the OS 9 G1 Power Mac magneto-optical external drive days!
I couldn't remember what it was doing on the iMac, but I switched it off, and then clicked "Restart", hoping that when I rebooted (in OS 9) the error message wouldn't come up when I ran the "Mac OS X Install" application.
However, I'd forgotten that I'd switched the Startup Disk control panel to the DVD, so when the iMac restarted, the initial OS X dark grey Apple logo screen appeared, and I expected the dark grey "circle with a line through it" logo to appear shortly afterwards, but it didn't! The iMac booted up from the DVD, which then let me install Tiger! I was then able to apply the 10.4.11 update, plus all the others that Software Update provided. About half a dozen restarts and several hours later, the iMac is now fully updated & configured, favourites are copied over to Safari 3.1.2, and all I have to do is teach my Mum how to use the OS X Finder, Mail & Safari, as opposed to the OS 9 Finder, Outlook Express & Internet Explorer...
Switching off the SilverLining control panel seemed to do the trick, but since the iMac then rebooted from the DVD, not the internal hard disk, I don't see how it could have possibly had any bearing on things! Very weird!
Anyway, thanks to Allan Jones & spudnuty for their advice. All's well that ends well!

Can I boot and install Tiger on a G4 running 9.2.2 from an external DVD

I have a Power Mac G4 (PCI Graphics) computer running OS 9.2.2. Firmware version I believe is 3.2.8. I purchased OS X Tiger DVD. I do not have a DVD drive on this Mac. I cannot seem to start up the Power Mac in Target mode via firewire. When I checked Apple website this Mac is not on list as able to be a target volume. Therefore, to avoid ordering CD's from Apple, I was hoping to buy an external DVD drive and use that to install from. Before I buy the new drive, I wanted to be sure this will work. Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
The PowerMac G4 PCI Graphics can't boot from Firewire.
It also can't run Target Disk Mode.
The AGP Graphics was the first one that could.
That's documented in the articles here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58606
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583
Make doubly sure it is a PCI graphics by reading this article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The PCI graphics needs no firmware update.
But I would make sure you have at least a 20 GB hard drive and 512 MB of RAM before installing and following the specs for your machine when it comes to the RAM
http://support.apple.com/specs/

To install Tiger, some Macs need internal DVD drive, or CD version of Tiger

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Some Macs while they have Firewire, don't support Target Disk Mode, nor Firewire booting. These Macs if they came with no DVD drive, and only a CD drive or CD-RW drive (as opposed to combo or superdrive), can only install Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) if you:
1. Install a compatible internal DVD drive from which supports http://www.patchburn.de/ or other firmware that supports Mac OS X booting.
2. Find the original retail CD version of Mac OS X 10.4 that was available for a limited time called the Media Exchange Program CD.
These Macs include the Blue and White G3 desktop (non-iMac), and the PCI PowerMac G4 described below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
The iMac G3 with built-in Firewire, iBook G3 with built-in Firewire, and AGP PowerMac G4 with built-in Firewire at least support Firewire booting and Target Disk Mode which would allow them to use an external optical DVD drive that supports Mac OS X booting.
If they didn't have an internal DVD drive.
Port #4 in this image below is a Firewire port:
Notes: Macs released on or after April 26, 2005 need to install Tiger from the discs that came with them, or a newer retail release except Intel Macs. Retail release of Tiger is a black disc with a white X logo and does not say Upgrade or Update.
Intel Macs could only install Tiger from the discs that came with them.
Macs released on or after October 26, 2007 can't install Tiger.
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What happens if the firmware isn't updated?
The display may stop working, even for OS 9. It is not easy to fix.
I just installed 10.2 on one of them and it seems to be working. Should I uninstall it and upgrade the firmware and start over?
Check the "Boot ROM version" with System profiler. If the firmware is updated it will be 4.1.9
It is not necessary to remove OSX to install the updates if OS 9 is still on the hard drive. If not, and the OS 9 drivers are there, OS 9 can be installed without affecting OSX.
The update won't install if it is not needed.

HDD crashed! How to install Tiger onto 867mhz G4 with no DVD drive??

Hi folks.
My trusty 867mhz G4 Quicksilver Powermac drive has finally konked out. It was running OS 9.2.2 before. Now I want to install Tiger as the OS.
Having only a CD drive (nope, can't read or write DVD's), how do I proceed to install Tiger (I have the original install disk) onto the brand new blank hard drive?
Possible tools that I have:
1) last generation 1.67mhz G4 powerbook
2) dual 2.5ghz G5 powermac
3) Lacie external firewire DVD drive
Things I have tried:
1) hold down "c" while starting up the Quicksilver with the Lacie DVD drive hooked up to it, hoping I can start up from the optical drive, which contains the Tiger install disk. Result: blank white screen that goes nowhere. Found out that the Lacie needs at least 10.3.9 to run.
I'm out of ideas.
Can someone tell me the right way to do this?

Thanks guys.
Didn't sleep at all last night, BUT, I did it!
1) Set the Quicksilver as a firewire target disk hooked up to my G4 1.67GHZ Powerbook. Result = frozen blue screen.
3) Set the Quicksilver as a firewire target disk hooked up to my dual 2.5GHZ G5 Power Mac. Result = frozen blue screen
So that got me thinking, the common thing about the Powerbook and Power Mac is that they both run Leopard. It makes sense to me that computers that already have Leopard installed will probably not run a Tiger installer.
So, I whip out the oldest and slowest computer I have, which is an old 550MHZ Titanium Powerbook, complete with 1 broken hinge, flickering screen and peeled paint. It runs Tiger. I set the Quicksilver as a firewire target disk hooked up to the Titanium Powerbook.
Voila! It works like a charm!
So for anyone facing the same problem, one of the possibilities is: you can do it with the computer set as a firewire target disk hooked up to another computer running nothing newer than Tiger.
Thanks again for your help guys!

Is it possible to install Tiger using an external DVD drive?

I have one the of the first iMacs and at the time I thought I didn't need a DVD Player. However, now I was thinking of buying an external DVD player/burner. Is it possible to upgrade to Tiger using the external DVD drive since I don't have an internal one?

Hi Celticart,
Welcome to the discussions.
I have an old AGP PowerMac G4 to which I have hooked an external Firewire DVD Drive. I have installed Tiger without any problems, using this drive. I see no reason why it couldn't be done on an iMac as well, (provided it has Firewire).
I don't think you could get it to work using an external drive hooked up via USB.
Cheers!
Karl

How do I install Tiger without DVD drive?

How do I install Tiger without DVD drive on a Powerbook?
My Powerbook had some problems recently, the HDD and the Superdrive where gone. I replaced the HD but can not get Tiger installed here because the DVD drive isn't working. I boot right now from a FW HD. Any Ideas how to install the OS on the internal drive?
Any ideas would be apreciated.

See Option 2 in
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304129> or Option 1 in
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303028>
It has worked for at least one person:
"Kenichi Watanabe
Posts: 853
Registered: 2-Sep-2003
Re: Using DVD drive in iMac G4 for iMac G3 in Target Disk Mode-->won't read DVD
Posted: 26-Oct-2006 4:37 PM in response to: AJ Nealey
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I just tried it between a Power Mac G5 and a PowerBook G3 (Pismo) and it worked. The G5 was Mac in Firewire Target Disk Mode. I started the G5 with the T with no DVD in the drive. I started up the G3, and the G5's hard drive appeared on the G3's desktop. I pushed the eject key (on the G5 keyboard) and the SuperDrive opened. I put in a DVD (the Tiger installation disk) and closed the SuperDrive. The DVD appeared on the G3's desktop. I restarted the G3 with the Option key held down, and the DVD in the G5 appeared as a valid startup choice."

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