Installing 2nd hard drive - Serial vs Ultra?

I have a G5 with an empty hard drive slot and today purchased a 400GB Seagate "Ultra ATA" internal hard drive. However, when I tried installing it, I was unable to connect any of the Mac's cables to it. I did some research and found there is a difference between Serial (SATA) and Ultra ATA hard drives. My question is, is there anything I can do at this point short of returning the drive to the store and buying a Serial one instead?
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Hi Johnny;
My suggestion is return.
Your performance will be better with SATA.
Allan

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Quote from: Civitas on 17-December-10, 22:30:44
Thanks in advance for all the replies thus far.
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I have talked to a couple of other techies, which I am not, who have had similar experiences and both of them said they later found their bios was limited to accept only certain sized drives.
I wonder what is the maximum hard drive size for this board and Bios (1.9)?
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Yes, the sata ports are orange, thus making it a SATA I board. Given that, should not a Sata II drop down to a Sata I standard automatically?
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donp815 wrote:
what do I need to install second hard drive HP PAVILLION: p6633w?
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