Installing Applications - Permissions Question/Problem
Hi All:
I have tried a number of searches and found variations on this, but was wondering why permissions get modified when I perform drag and drop installations of applications.
When I use an installer to install applications such as iWork, iLife, Office, and Creative Suite, and so on the permissions are always listed as system then admin then everyone, with system and admin being read/write and everyone being read only. In this situation, everything works perfectly. However, when I drag and drop to install applications such as Bento, most shareware, the permissions are listed as my user, then staff or admin, then everyone. Sometimes the staff and admin are listed read only and then the icon does not show up until I manually change this to read/write.
I have also noticed another problem when I am running in my limited access (none admin) mode: When I tried to install a NEW drag and drop application it would ask for a username and password and then install as described in the previous paragraph, but when I tried to install an UPGRADE to an application I had, it would ask me to authenticate. When I clicked authenticate it would go straight to the replace dialog and then when I click replace button it would fail. In the process of failing it would damage the application that was already installed. As a result I would then need to manually remove the damaged application and drop the upgrade back in to the folder, at which it would correctly ask for the username and password.
Something is wrong here. As a none admin user I should not be able to damage applications when prevented from installing them.
I've tried the usual permission fixes, but there must be something that is not quite right. I have even tried a reinstall.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Message was edited by: Paul Charlesworth
Message was edited by: Paul Charlesworth
Paul Charlesworth wrote:
Hi All:
I have tried a number of searches and found variations on this, but was wondering why permissions get modified when I perform drag and drop installations of applications.
When I use an installer to install applications such as iWork, iLife, Office, and Creative Suite, and so on the permissions are always listed as system then admin then everyone, with system and admin being read/write and everyone being read only. In this situation, everything works perfectly. However, when I drag and drop to install applications such as Bento, most shareware, the permissions are listed as my user, then staff or admin, then everyone. Sometimes the staff and admin are listed read only and then the icon does not show up until I manually change this to read/write.
this is normal and what you describe is exactly how it should work. when an app uses an installer it runs as root and the installer manages permissions on files it creates. they are always owned by root (=system in Finder GUI). when you install something by drag and drop then the application is owned by you and the group listed is your primary group which is staff.
I have also noticed another problem when I am running in my limited access (none admin) mode: When I tried to install a NEW drag and drop application it would ask for a username and password and then install as described in the previous paragraph, but when I tried to install an UPGRADE to an application I had, it would ask me to authenticate. When I clicked authenticate it would go straight to the replace dialog and then when I click replace button it would fail. In the process of failing it would damage the application that was already installed. As a result I would then need to manually remove the damaged application and drop the upgrade back in to the folder, at which it would correctly ask for the username and password.
Something is wrong here. As a none admin user I should not be able to damage applications when prevented from installing them.
I don't know what exactly happened here but I'm guessing you tried to upgrade an application that was installed by a different user originally. that might create permissions problems. but since all such apps are installed by drag and drop you can always trash the old app and install the updated one by drag and drop. that will always work (you'll have to authenticate of course).
I've tried the usual permission fixes, but there must be something that is not quite right.
repair permissions will not touch any 3rd party apps or files so it will have zero effect on this issue.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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"of availability.\n\n6. \tControlling Law.\n\nThis software license " +
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"of Australia without regard to its conflict of law provisions. You " +
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"of the courts located within Australia. The United Nations Convention " +
"on the International Sale of Goods does not apply to this software " +
"license.\n\n7.\tPrecedence.\n\nThis software license constitutes the " +
"entire understanding between the parties respecting use of the software, " +
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"---\nIf you accept the terms of the agreements, click I Agree to continue. " +
" You must accept the agreement to download and use the software. ");
scroll.setBounds(new Rectangle(36, 36, 478, 305));
this.getContentPane().add(readcheck);
readcheck.setVisible(false);
this.getContentPane().add(scroll);
textscroll = new JScrollPane (scroll, JScrollPane.VERTICAL_SCROLLBAR_ALWAYS,
JScrollPane.HORIZONTAL_SCROLLBAR_NEVER);
textscroll.setBounds(36,36,400,400);
getContentPane().add( textscroll );
this.getContentPane().add(background);
JLabel background = new JLabel();
JCheckBox readcheck = new JCheckBox();
JTextArea scroll = new JTextArea();
}Sorry about all the text for the agreement. I've tried a number of different things I got from searching the forums at different points in the code (setting the number of rows/columns, setting max and min sizes, etc etc) The code above that wraps the text I could have sworn I tried 3 times before it magically worked... I also tried using the awt component for textareas that had the scrollbars built in, but scrapped it after having even more difficulties with that one. I'm trying to get the textbox to only go down about 300 px and 300 px to the right. Using the graphical editor to change it produces a null pointer error at compile time(?!?). Can anyone help me to get the textbox to render as I want it to?
Edited by: rpk5000 on Jan 27, 2008 9:43 AMfor instance, boxlayout would work nicely with the installer frame (or dialog)
import java.awt.Dimension;
import java.awt.EventQueue;
import java.awt.event.ActionEvent;
import java.awt.event.ActionListener;
import javax.swing.BorderFactory;
import javax.swing.BoxLayout;
import javax.swing.JButton;
import javax.swing.JCheckBox;
import javax.swing.JFrame;
import javax.swing.JLabel;
import javax.swing.JPanel;
import javax.swing.JScrollPane;
import javax.swing.JTextArea;
import javax.swing.SwingUtilities;
import javax.swing.UIManager;
public class InstalleFrame
public InstalleFrame()
try
jbInit();
catch (Exception ex)
ex.printStackTrace();
private JScrollPane textscroll;
private JPanel contentPane = new JPanel();
private JLabel background = new JLabel();
private JCheckBox readcheck = new JCheckBox();
private JTextArea scroll = new JTextArea();
private void jbInit() throws Exception
contentPane.setLayout(new BoxLayout(contentPane, BoxLayout.PAGE_AXIS));
contentPane.setBackground(UIManager.getColor("window"));
contentPane.setBorder(BorderFactory.createEmptyBorder(15, 15, 15, 15));
scroll.setWrapStyleWord(true);
scroll.setLineWrap(true);
String text = "Copyright ? 2006-2007 GonZor228.com \n\nBy using or distributing this "
+ "software (or any work based on the software) you shall be deemed "
+ "to have accepted the terms and conditions set out below.\n\nGonZor228.com "
+ "(\"GonZor\") is making this software freely available on the basis "
+ "that it is accepted as found and that the user checks its fitness "
+ "for purpose prior to use.\n\nThis software is provided \'as-is\', without "
+ "any express or implied warranties whatsoever. In no event will the "
+ "authors, partners or contributors be held liable for any damages, "
+ "claims or other liabilities direct or indirect, arising from the "
+ "use of this software.\n\nGonZor will from time to time make software "
+ "updates available. However, GonZor accepts no obligation to provide "
+ "any support to free license holders.\n\nGonZor grants you a limited "
+ "non-exclusive license to use this software for any purpose that does "
+ "not violate any laws that apply to your person in your current jurisdiction, "
+ "subject to the following restrictions: \n\n\nblah, blah, blah,..."
+ "\n\n";
StringBuilder sb = new StringBuilder();
for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++)
sb.append(text);
scroll.setText(sb.toString());
contentPane.add(readcheck);
contentPane.add(scroll);
textscroll = new JScrollPane(scroll,
JScrollPane.VERTICAL_SCROLLBAR_ALWAYS,
JScrollPane.HORIZONTAL_SCROLLBAR_NEVER);
textscroll.setPreferredSize(new Dimension(400, 400));
contentPane.add(textscroll);
JPanel bottomPane = new JPanel();
bottomPane.setOpaque(false);
final JButton okButton = new JButton("OK");
final JButton cancelButton = new JButton("Cancel");
okButton.setEnabled(false);
readcheck.setOpaque(false);
readcheck.setText("I have read and accept the license agreement");
readcheck.addActionListener(new ActionListener()
public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e)
JCheckBox radioBtn = (JCheckBox)e.getSource();
if (radioBtn.isSelected())
okButton.setEnabled(true);
else
okButton.setEnabled(false);
okButton.addActionListener(new ActionListener()
public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e)
// TODO: whatever needs to be done here
cancelButton.addActionListener(new ActionListener()
public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e)
SwingUtilities.getWindowAncestor(contentPane).dispose();
bottomPane.add(readcheck);
bottomPane.add(okButton);
bottomPane.add(cancelButton);
contentPane.add(bottomPane);
//readcheck.setVisible(false);
contentPane.add(background);
public JPanel getContentPane()
return contentPane;
public static void main(String[] args)
EventQueue.invokeLater(new Runnable()
public void run()
InstalleFrame install = new InstalleFrame();
JFrame frame = new JFrame("Install");
frame.getContentPane().add(install.getContentPane());
frame.setDefaultCloseOperation(3);
frame.setSize(550, 400);
frame.setUndecorated(false); //**
frame.pack(); //**
frame.setLocationRelativeTo(null); //**
frame.setVisible(true);
}
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