Installing boot camp/windows on separate drive (Tiger) question

I work in a college computer lab where we have been instructed to install an additional internal hard drive on our lab of Mac Pros which will be dedicated to Windows.
The issue that I see is that we are still running Tiger due to some of the specialized software that we use not being compatible with Leopard and will not be upgrading the OS for at least a semester. I have read that Boot Camp is no longer compatible with Tiger, so my question is this: Is it possible to still install the drives which will be windows formatted if we have a copy of the old Boot Camp Beta (which I understand is no longer available)? I would think this is not particularly wise to do, but unfortunately I am not the final say in my situation.
Thanks for your help on this!

maestrotim wrote:
Thanks Stefan, sorry but what drivers CD do you mean?
With the Beta the neede Windows Drivers are incorporated into the BootCamp Assistant.
Since you need the drivers to complete the Windows Installation, you have to make a Drivers CD from the BootCamp Assistant before starting the Windows Installation.
In the Top Menu of the Assistant you find this.
Regards
Stefan

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Last login: Mon Feb 16 16:11:46 on console
YLFs-iMac:~ ylf$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
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   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *1.0 TB     disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Macintosh HD            999.3 GB   disk0s2
   3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.0 MB   disk0s4
/dev/disk1
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   0:     FDisk_partition_scheme                        *8.0 GB     disk1
   1:                 DOS_FAT_32 WININSTALL              8.0 GB     disk1s1
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No CoreStorage logical volume groups found
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Password:
gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168
gpt show: /dev/disk0: PMBR at sector 0
gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1
gpt show: /dev/disk0: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167
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1952255592     1269536      3 GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
1953525128           7
1953525135          32         Sec GPT table
1953525167           1         Sec GPT header
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