Installing classic support

Greetings all,
I would like to install classic support on my G5 but there were issues with my computer when I first recieved it (straight out of the box) that meant bringing it to the service provider and they had to replace the logic board. I works great now but os 9 can only be installed on the computer it came with. Does this mean classic support cannot be installed on my system?
I'd like to get an expert opinion before I go ahead and install.
By the way when I open "apple>about this mac" It does not show the product serial number. This is due to the changed logic board and is why I am skeptical that classic support won't work.

In the read me it says classic will only install on the computer the install disks came with. Why? What piece of hardware does it depend upon? So a replaced logic board should not matter?

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I'm trying to install Classic support on my iBook. The install appears to complete. It says it did anyway.
When I double click on a classic app I get this error:
"The Operation could not be completed.
An unexpected error occurred (error code -1)."
There also seems to be no preference panel for Classic like there should be.
I'm thinking that the install actually did not complete but I can't figure out why.
I saw this in the install.log file when I tried installing it but I don't know if it is relevent:
"Package Authoring Error: Infinite loop between <choice> attributes and mixed state aborted."
I tried repairing permissions but it didn't appear to do anything.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Can't seem to re-install Classic support

I have been preparing an old PowerMac G4 to give to a friend.   I erased the hard-drive and did a clean install of Tiger, and updated it.   I'm now trying to re-install Classic support (so I can occasionally go to her house and run one of my OS9 apps, since I can't seem to find Chubby Bunny to get classic support on my new/old Intel machine :-(
I thought all that was necessary was to copy an OS9 System Folder onto the hard-drive.   (I actually made a small separate partition when I erased the hard-drive, although I doubt this was necessary).   I copied the System Folder from a "Mac OS9 Install" CD that was in the original set of discs that came when I bought an older G4 new.   I think the discs are probably OSX 10.1, but the OS9 disc seems to be 9.2
Anyhow, when I try to fire up Classic mode, I get a message somehting like "this system software can only run on the original media, not if it is copied to another drive".     I assume it's referring to the fact that I have copied the System Folder from the CD to my hard-drive.   And if I leave the OS9 CD in the drive and point Classic to it (which would be a poor long-term solution), it complains that it needs to update the Classic resources and the volume is un-writable.   Kind of a catch-22.
The weird thing is, I successfully did this once before, when I bought (used) this same G4.
Thanks.
P.S. Please let me know if I should put this in the OSX Tiger forum instead.

RustyQShackleford wrote:
But when I went to do the OS9 install, it could only find the root partition where I have 10.4.11 installed. It could not find the other partition of the my main HDD (where I'd hoped to put OS9), nor could it find the smaller HDD at all.   It refused to install it on the root partition anyhow, without doing a clean install and nuking OSX.
Evidently the problem was that I didn't check "install OS9 drivers" when I formatted the smaller HDD - even though it said "this will not affect Classic".   So I re-formatted it and checked that, and now it allowed me to install OS9.2 on it, and now Classic works fine.   It still refused to recognize the smaller partition of my main HDD, which is where I really wanted to install it.
Thanks all.

Problem Installing Classic support in Mac OS X v.10.2.3

Hello!
Sorry for my poor english.
I got a PowerBook G4 (15 inch)
And Mac OS X v. 10.2.3 installed on it.
Some program tells me that it needs Classic enabled to start.
Then I go to System Preferences to Classic
And there's a messsage
"There is no volume with a system folder that supports starting Clssic"
I were confused. I did reinstall all the system to split the hard drive in two partitions. But that doesn't help me.
After this. I search the internet for the solution.
According to this article
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh763.html
I should insert "Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test" disk, but i haven't got anything like this.
I've got:
Apple Hardware Test (PowerBook G4) Disk
and
PowerBook G4 15 inch Software install and Restore Disk
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After this, i'm decided to copy whole inserted disk to PowerBook as an .dmg file and try to install from it. Copy process done successeful, no read errors. But the installation process ask me "PLease insert the disk market like this" and picture of the part of the disk with two circles, exactly i have on the "Install Applications and Mac OS 9" Disk.
So, what should i do to enable that Classic Support on my Mac OS X v.10.2.3
And more of it. What is the message
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Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Thanks a lot!
Last 10 days was my first deep intrusion into Mac OS intrails...
About disks i have, yes, it's original disks. There's no scratchs or dust on them. The copied fine in IBM PC, disk to disk, with no errors. How i tell before, there's a problem that restore application tells me that tehre's an "error type number 45 on copy". And i can't solve exactly this problem.
Also, I found another one solution in internet. Sorry, this solution is in russian, but i will try to traslate it later
http://www.mikeosx.com/faq/faq.html#Anchor-49575
This solution tells:
1 step:
Start install you Mac OS X from install disk
2 step
Split you hard drive into two partitions with Disk Utility application before you will procide to install, And don't forget to set "OS 9 Drives" (or something like this)
3 step
After installation was complete. Restart you'r Mac.
Insert disk marked "Repair" (or something like this) than go to "/Volumes/iBook Restore CD/.images"
"iBook Restore CD" you should change to whatever you disk is labeled.
In that folder (directory) you will notice file OS9General.dmg
Mount this disk image
4 step
Open your empty partition (not the one you installed Mac OS X)
Select all the files on mounted OS9General.dmg and copy them to empty partition.
Thank You "eww" ones more, for your suggestions. I hope that i will win this round "Me vs Mac"
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Can't install Classic support in 10.4.11

Hi. I recently reformatted the HD on my iMac and re-installed 10.4.11. I now realize that I need to run an OS 9 app in Classic but I'm having trouble re-installing support for the Classic app. Following instructions elsewhere, I'm using the disc "Software Install and Restore (Includes Apple Hardware Test)" that came with my iMac. On this disc there is an installer for Classic support. However, when I run this app from the disc (without re-boot from disc), eventually I am prompted to insert the very disc that's already in the machine. Ejecting and re-inserting the disc doesn't do anything. And when I re-boot from the disc, the only choice I'm given is to re-install 10.2 using either the "Archive and Install" option or the "Erase" disc option. I don't like either of these options, particularly since it's not even clear that I'll be able to then install Classic after doing all that, not to mention having to re-install everything else again!
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Hi, gracebug. Installing and using OS 9 for Classic mode does not require OS 9 drivers to be installed. They're only needed if you want to start the computer up in OS 9, which isn't possible with your Mac anyway.
See whether these articles help you get Classic support installed, and let us know how you make out:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA23296
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh763.html
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Installing nVidia GeForce drivers on Mac OS 9 Classic Support

hi, everyone !
I have just installed classic support on my Quicksilver and i don't know how to install the drivers for my GeForce Ti4600 OEM video card.
Can you please give me more information ?
Cheers !

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com may be another place to find references you need.
Classic driver support is not the same as booting into Mac OS 9 support.
For instance Simcity 2000 would only run on my iMac G4 if I booted into Mac OS 9. When I try to run it in Classic, it stalls trying to load. The same thing happened to John Madden 2000 unless I changed to software graphics mode, and then only when booted into Mac OS 9.
Booting means going into Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Startup Disk and selecting the Mac OS 9 System Folder, and restart. Whereas Classic loads it in Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Classic without a reboot.

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Hi, Steve.
If, when your hard drive was last formatted using OS X's Disk Utility, the option to install Mac OS 9 drivers was selected, then you will be able to install OS 9.2.1 on it by starting up from the 9.2.1 CD and running the installer normally. There is no need to erase the hard drive, and if you don't do so, the already-installed OS X will not be disturbed.
If OS 9 drivers were not installed when the drive was last formatted, the OS 9.2.1 installer CD won't be able to detect the hard drive at all, and you won't be able to install on it. In that event, you'll need to start up from your OS X 10.4 installer disc and reformat the hard drive, which will completely erase it. Be sure this time to select the option to install OS 9 drivers on it. Then install OS 9.2.1, and finally, reinstall OS X 10.4 and apply the combo updater to 10.4.8.

Installing Classic on Tiger

I'm trying to install the Classic environment v9.1 I downloaded form Apple's site, but i'm getting this error:
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I have never installed this before, so this is all new to me. So how do I go about doing so? Thanks

Did you get the original install discs along with it? One of them has what you need. From that computer's manual:
Installing Classic Support and Other Applications
Use the “Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test” to install Classic support and additional applications that were not included on Mac OS X install disc 1. Install Classic support if you want to use Mac OS 9 applications with your computer.
Follow these steps to install Classic support or the additional bundled applications:
1 Back up your essential files, if possible.
2 Insert the “Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test” disc that came with your computer.
3 Double-click “Install Extra Software.”
4 Follow the onscreen instructions.
5 After selecting the destination disk for installation, continue following the onscreen instructions for a basic installation or click “Customize” to choose the applications you want to install.
The original OS was Panther, but I suspect you could still use the "Install Extra Software" package even though the computer has now been upgraded to Tiger. If not, you could probably use Pacifist to extract the OS 9 System Folder from it.
If you don't have the original install discs you might still be able to get a replacement set from Apple.

HELP - How do you install classic without erasing OS 10.4.8

Please help....I just replaced my PowerBook G4 with a new MacBook and would like to pass the G4 down to my daughter. Most of the games that she uses are in classic from her old Imac. My G4 came with classic but I had to reinstall OSX a while ago and never put classic back in. I can't get it to boot from any OS CD that I have, please advise.
Thanks,
Dad trying to do good for his 7yr old daughter

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Hi FKTS,
The Classic files for your PowerBook G4 are on the original install DVD that came with it.
A Panther (10.3.x) install set of DVD/CDs most probably?
Anyway, insert this original install disc, and look for "Classic Support" installer, something like that.
Double-click, follow the prompts.
Classic will get installed without changing anything to the existing Tiger installation, just like it would do with the original OS (Panther or Jaguar?).
If you don't find anything like "Classic Support Something":
Some original installations came through a first step of installing an additional software installer (example my iMac G4).
- No problem: In that case, you'll have to double-click the Mac OS X installation icon first, then instead of reinstalling Mac OS X, you'll find your way to a Custom Installation of additional/bundled software.
Proceed to install Classic.
Here too, it'll get installed without modifying your OS (whether it is the original one or your newly installed Tiger).
Have fun!
Axl

New iMac G5 but no classic support in Tiger?

I have just bought a new iMac G5 20" with the latest Tiger 10.4x. When I want to install a peripheral or Quark from my old Os 9.2.2 it say "I do not have a version of Mac Os9 installed that supports classic or later." in the pop up window. I hit the ? button and it tells me to install from disc 2 the support files. When I do that it tells me there is nothing to install.
A greyed out icon appears in the menu bar. A widget appears in the widget bar.
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What constitutes "compatibility" is partly what you mean by the word.
From Tiger's built-in dictionary:
"• (of a computer, a piece of software, or other device) able to be used with a specified piece of equipment or software without special adaptation or modification"
By this definition, all recent Macs (except servers?) up to but not including the Intel-based ones are compatible with Classic, at least to the extent that installing the included Classic support is not considered a "special adaptation."
I think most people would consider something like SheepShaver quite a special adaptation: from what I can tell, it requires both an image of the PowerMac ROM & a copy of the Mac OS, which I presume are not included with Intel-based Macs. I also note it claims only to offer a "varying degree of functionality" with listed systems, among them "Darwin/ppc," but no specific reference to Darwin + Intel support. The only Intel CPU reference I see is to "Linux/ia32 (AKA x86)" so I'm not sure this emulator really should or could be considered a replacement for Classic in OS X/Intel systems, even in a limited way.
If you know otherwise, I'm sure that info would be of great interest to readers of this thread.

Loading 9.2 onto Panther w/classic support

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John, welcome to Apple Discussions.
Just boot using the OS 9.x install CD. Your current Panther system software is located in a folder named System. When you install OS 9, it will be in a folder named System Folder. The installation of OS 9 will not affect or override the Panther system. If you wnat to be able to boot into OS 9 (rather than run OS 9 in classic mode), you must have the OS 9 drivers installed on your hard drive. You can check to see if the drivers are installed by looking at the About this Mac>More Info>Hardware>ATA.
What OS 9 CD are you using? A retail version - white with an orange 9?
What was your previous problem in installing OS 9?
 Cheers, Tom

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I am using the Install Disc 2 which came with my Mac Mini. It has an icon labeled "Install Mac OS 9 System Support." When I use it to try to install Classic (OS 9), it lists the package names, including Mac OS 9 (US English) with the Action listed as "Skip", although the package size is 325 MB. So that when it tries to install, it says there is nothing to install.
Is there another Install Disc 2 which I should have? Obviously, this has worked for other users, and I also need the Classic environment.

Welcome to Apple Discussions
Because Pre-OS X system software is not multi-lingual, it comes in many different language versions. The Classic support CD doesn't have any versions selected by default. Click the language version you want & it then show how big the install will be. Unchecked boxes tell the installer you don't want that item, so it says "skip."
Peggy

Installing Classic Mode on Tiger, DVDs, emulators

I want to install classic mode on a Mac running OS 10.4 (Power PC processor). We have DVDs for three different kinds of Mac of the same generation, but none of them come with the extra tools CD/DVD that is mentioned in Apple's instructions and in other posts as containing OS 9. The install DVDs are the Swiss (German) version. Is the third DVD only in the US version?
We have 9.0 CDs for two Power Mac G4s, plus one G4 computer that's broken, and one that's alive and well, running 9.2. Is there a way I could lift the system folder from this computer, copy it onto the hard disk on the 10.4 computer, and "bless" it, or is more required than the system fold for classic mode to run under Tiger? I'm wondering whether it's possible to install an emulator like Sheepshaver, since I could start with 9.0 and upgrade that to 9.2, and then transfer the necessary files (system folder plus ...?) to use the built-in classic environment.
Any help would be much appreciated.

You don't say exactly what computers are involved which places us at a disadvantage in helping you.
If you have a copy of OS 9.1 or greater on a computer you can simply copy the whole System Folder to a PPC running Tiger and set it up to be Classic. Put it at the root level next to OSX's "System". If you actually want to boot to OS9, that's where knowing the details of the computers and operating systems involved is essential.
Technically, system installations can be machine specific, but I think for OS9, and especially when used as Classic, this isn't as much an issue. Classic isn't in charge of any hardware anyway. Some people may post saying, "Oh, it absolutely must be installed correctly," but frankly I have copied OS9.2.2 from computer to computer as I worked my way through models and had it work on any model that supports OS9, and that was for booting.
If all you have are installer versions of OS9 on optical that is where you may run into trouble and may ultimately end up needing copies of the original discs (which likely are no longer available). You will have to get the computer to boot to the installer disc in order to get it to actually put a usuable copy of OS9 on the computer. Again, this is where knowing the exact disc versions and exact computer specifications is important.
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How To Install Classic?

How do I install Classic on my iBook G4 (1Ghz)? I already have 10.4.10 installed. I have the Mac OS X Tiger Install DVD, but cannot find Classic to install.
I booted from the DVD, but there were no options to install Classic. Is Classic not available for Tiger? That would really be a major problem, because I have thousands of files that I need to acces, and cannot get to otherwise .... !!
Help!! Thanks.

What type of files are you wanting to access? I ask this because I don't know of many older files types that can't be opened by OS X applications, including Appleworks. Almost every commercial app was moved to OS X long ago and are capable of opening their respective file types.
You also need to know that new Macs don't support OS 9 Classic at all. So if you ever buy a new Mac you'll need to convert those files anyway.
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Cd-rom with classic program won't load after installing classic

I tried to install a program that said it required classic support, so I installed classic from my installation disk.
Classic seems to be running without any problems, but now when I put in the cd-rom for the software I was trying to install it won't mount.
Other cd's seem to mount fine, but not this one.
Am I missing an extension or driver to mount a cd in OS 9?

WithaK, do you mean Classic 9 seems to be running on top of OS X, or that you booted the Mac is pure OS 9, please?
If Classic 9 is running over X, any CD should behave exactly as it did before until perhaps you try to view it from an OS 9 application.
If the Mac is booted in pure OS 9 it might need some format translators so exactly which files in System Folder>Extensions have the words "File Access" on the end of their names, please?

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