Installing "Classic" without CD

I need to install "Classic" to run a program with OS 9, but I don't have the CD that came with my laptop. Does anyone know how to install it without the CD?
Thanks!

Goto an Apple Store, and they can likely help you.
You can always copy one from another Mac too, but depending on the model and the OS version, it might be problematic.

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HELP - How do you install classic without erasing OS 10.4.8

Please help....I just replaced my PowerBook G4 with a new MacBook and would like to pass the G4 down to my daughter. Most of the games that she uses are in classic from her old Imac. My G4 came with classic but I had to reinstall OSX a while ago and never put classic back in. I can't get it to boot from any OS CD that I have, please advise.
Thanks,
Dad trying to do good for his 7yr old daughter

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Hi FKTS,
The Classic files for your PowerBook G4 are on the original install DVD that came with it.
A Panther (10.3.x) install set of DVD/CDs most probably?
Anyway, insert this original install disc, and look for "Classic Support" installer, something like that.
Double-click, follow the prompts.
Classic will get installed without changing anything to the existing Tiger installation, just like it would do with the original OS (Panther or Jaguar?).
If you don't find anything like "Classic Support Something":
Some original installations came through a first step of installing an additional software installer (example my iMac G4).
- No problem: In that case, you'll have to double-click the Mac OS X installation icon first, then instead of reinstalling Mac OS X, you'll find your way to a Custom Installation of additional/bundled software.
Proceed to install Classic.
Here too, it'll get installed without modifying your OS (whether it is the original one or your newly installed Tiger).
Have fun!
Axl

How to install Classic without original 10.4 discs?

I just bought a used emac g4 1 ghz as a backup to my emac g4 1.25 ghz. I have 10.3.9 on my 1,25 ghz emac and when I received this used emac I discovered it had 10.4.8 installed...but no classic. I still have a couple classic programs I use, so I was wondering if there is anyway to install classic in the 10.4.8 even though I didn't get the Tiger discs with the computer. I do have the original 10.3 discs for both my 1.25 ghz emac and this 1.0 ghz emac, but is there anyway to install just classic without erasing the 10.4.8???
Thank you for any help.

andrews424, Welcome to the discussion area!
See a brody's user tip "Restoring Mac OS 9 on a bootable Mac".
It has all the directions.

How to install Classic on 800MHz SD eMac w/10.4 w/o wiping entire drive??

I've been trying to help out a friend who bought an 800MHz eMac (SuperDrive) used on Craigslist. Machine is in great condition and came with Tiger installed and working fine. She has since installed many of her own OS X apps, but finds she needs to run a few legacy apps and needs Classic installed.
She has a 4-CD set of eMac Software Restore discs, which contain OS 10.1.4 plus OS 9.2.2. These are not standalone installers, however. After mounting Disc 1, she is able to reboot from that CD (into an OS 9 interface), but is only presented with a single option, and that is to erase the hard disk and do a complete restore of the original OSes and apps that shipped with the computer. Since she has spent weeks installing apps and configuring the computer just as she wants it, she does not want to have to wipe the entire drive just to be able to add Classic at this point.
I can think of two alternatives, neither of which will work for her because she does not have access to an external firewire drive, either with or without a bootable system on it. My two methods would be to either:
A. Boot from an external FW drive in target disk mode and then use a standalone OS 9 installer (which she does have) to get Classic on the eMac;
B. Clone the entire hard drive to an external drive and then run the 4 eMac Software Restore discs, update to the latest version of Tiger, and then add back all her additional installed apps and utilities, etc.
1) Am I correct in assuming that method A would, in fact, work?
More importantly, though, can anyone suggest a simpler way to install OS 9 on this machine which would not involve using an external drive? It's so frustrating that the Software Restore disc is bootable (whereas the standalone OS 9 installer disc is not!)...yet there is no apparent way to access just the OS 9 installer on these Restore discs and to run just that installer and not have to reformat the entire drive.
2) Any bright ideas on a relatively simple workaround would be greatly appreciated!
Additionally, it is unknown whether or not OS 9 drivers have been installed on this eMac. I assume, though, that if they had not been installed, then an OS 9 installation would balk and not go through. It would be worth taking that chance, though, as the worst that could happen is that OS 9 would not install. Then there would be no other option but to do a full erase and install from the Restore Discs.
3) Is there any way of ascertaining in advance whether or not OS 9 drivers have been installed?
Thanks in advance for any help!
PowerMac G4/867 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Your initial post notes that OS X 10.4 is installed but 10.1.4 is on the actual restore discs that you have. My recollection is that Apple switched from 10.1.4 to 10.2 late in the production run of the 700 MHz model eMac (specificaly, they upgraded two weeks after I bought my 700 MHz eMac), so a 800 MHz model should have shipped with OS X 10.2, not 10.1.4. There are significant differences in the Restore disc sets between the different OS X versions. In any case it's clear that the discs you have do not include a retail Tiger install disc. You'll eventually want to pick up the retail black-lable Tiger 10.4 Install DVD in case it's ever necessary to reinstall the OS (if the eMac is one that doesn't have a DVD-ROM or DVD-RW drive, the Tiger DVD can still be exchanged for a set of CDs for a nominal fee).
From your later posts, it appears that you do have a separate OS 9 install CD but that the emac won't boot from that OS 9 disc. It rather sounds as if the disc set you have is actually from an earlier 700 MHz eMac model. Open System Profiler and check the video hardware; if it shows ATI graphics rather than nVidia graphics, you definitely have the wrong set of discs. While there's no online link for this, you can call the Apple Store and ask about purchasing a replacement set of discs for the Mac model you actually have (have the info from eMac: How to locate the serial number and identify your model handy if you call).
The OS 9 installation method you need depends on the set of restore disks and the original OS X version that was provided with those discs. Since you have 10.4 installed on a 800 MHz eMac, you'd nominally start with Mac OS X 10.4: Restoring applications from a Mac OS X 10.2 Software Restore disc rather than the older Using Restore Discs with Mac OS X 10.2 through 10.3.3. Unfortunately, reinstalling Classic following that guide does invovlve erasing the HD, which you want to avoid.
Given the discs you do have is for 10.1.4, you can check the later part of Using Apple Software Restore to install or reinstall parts without erasing (Mac OS X 10.1.5 or earlier) for the steps on how to install parts without erasing. However, if I'm picturing the correct set of Restore discs that you have in hand (there have been enogh different sets of resstore and install discs to make that a royally confusing morass), OS 9 is not on the Restore disc set in versions prior to OS X 10.2; rather, there should be a separate OS 9 Install CD in the set of discs that came with OS X 10.1.4 Macs.
Under the circumstances, unless you acquire the correct Restore discs for that model eMac, your best chance of getting Classic installed would on first thought be to take up Chopsuey's suggestion about dragging the OS 9 System Folder from the OS 9 Install CD onto the eMac's HD, then try to use that to get a hobbled form of Classic open well enough to use Tome Viewer to extract the full OS 9 System onto the HD. Although the OS 9 CD you have from a OS X 10.1.4 disc set would be for an nVidia graphics eMac and your appears to be an ATI model, the actual graphics hardware is driven by OS X, so having the wrong graphics drivers in OS 9 may or may not actually limit Classsic to running in a 640x480 pixel window.
I'm pretty sure you'd find it easier to call the Apple Store for the correct set of Restore discs for that model.
Installing the OS 9 drivers on the hard drive is required to boot the nVidia graphic model eMacs into OS 9 from the HD but is not required to use the OS 9 System Folder to run Classic. Later ATI graphics eMacs won't boot into OS 9 regardless of whether or not the drivers are installed on the hard drive. Either way, if you only want to run Classic, you don't need to reformat the drive to install the OS 9 drivers (nor search for the Terminal hack to put OS 9 drivers onto an already-formatted HD).

Installing Classic to Mac OS X

I recently installed Mac OS X in my imac G3.
I found out that I still need Classic (Mac OS 9.1).
How can I install Classic?
The message below is what appeared when I tried to install a software.
"There is no valid system software to start classic. Please consult the user documentation about installing the appropriate system software."
P.S. I used to use Mac OS 9.1 but installed Mac OS X on top of Classic.

Yuki y...
Unfortunately with lack of your information one does not know where to begin. Procedures need to be followed carefully or things such as a reformat of the HD may be in order to install Mac OS 9. Mac OS 10 can be installed with or without Mac OS 9's HD drivers however Mac OS 9 may not install from a CD without the drivers. There is also Mac OS 9 .dmg installs but those are machine specific and may not permit one to boot into Mac OS 9.
Other than going back through your documentation and understanding what went wrong may take some time. But you will understand proper procedures better, that way.
...Ron

Installing classic on OS 10.4.11

I bought a dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 with Mac OS X 10.4.11
I want to install Classic on it, but my Classic install disk will not bootup holding the C key.
The Classic disk does not showup in the System Preference startup disk window.
How can I install Classic on this computer? I need Classic at work for QuarkXpress 5
Thanks - Cissyfont

Classic is OS9 running under OSX; you start OSX first and then OSX runs OS9. Classic is not running the computer the way it does when running as OS9, OSX is. Your computer is too new and OS9 is not capable of running your computer on its own, but OS9 will work if OSX is really running the computer and helping it.
Classic requires version 9.1 or greater. Many old CDs came as version 9.0.4 and won't work as Classic without an upgrade (free). If you have a CD you have to do two things. One is to get OS9 off the CD and onto the computer. With older G4s this is easy because you can put the CD in the computer, start the computer from the CD and then run the installer. Your computer is too new and won't do that. Even if you could, you would run into problem two which is you still need to run the updaters to get it to version 9.1 or greater.
One way to get around all this is to find a computer that has a copy of OS9.1 or greater on it and get a copy off that.
So the basic answer is, yes you can install, and your computer will run, Classic, but you don't really have the components at hand to easily get it installed on your machine.
(I hope this isn't a troll.)

Can't seem to re-install Classic support

I have been preparing an old PowerMac G4 to give to a friend.   I erased the hard-drive and did a clean install of Tiger, and updated it.   I'm now trying to re-install Classic support (so I can occasionally go to her house and run one of my OS9 apps, since I can't seem to find Chubby Bunny to get classic support on my new/old Intel machine :-(
I thought all that was necessary was to copy an OS9 System Folder onto the hard-drive.   (I actually made a small separate partition when I erased the hard-drive, although I doubt this was necessary).   I copied the System Folder from a "Mac OS9 Install" CD that was in the original set of discs that came when I bought an older G4 new.   I think the discs are probably OSX 10.1, but the OS9 disc seems to be 9.2
Anyhow, when I try to fire up Classic mode, I get a message somehting like "this system software can only run on the original media, not if it is copied to another drive".     I assume it's referring to the fact that I have copied the System Folder from the CD to my hard-drive.   And if I leave the OS9 CD in the drive and point Classic to it (which would be a poor long-term solution), it complains that it needs to update the Classic resources and the volume is un-writable.   Kind of a catch-22.
The weird thing is, I successfully did this once before, when I bought (used) this same G4.
Thanks.
P.S. Please let me know if I should put this in the OSX Tiger forum instead.

RustyQShackleford wrote:
But when I went to do the OS9 install, it could only find the root partition where I have 10.4.11 installed. It could not find the other partition of the my main HDD (where I'd hoped to put OS9), nor could it find the smaller HDD at all.   It refused to install it on the root partition anyhow, without doing a clean install and nuking OSX.
Evidently the problem was that I didn't check "install OS9 drivers" when I formatted the smaller HDD - even though it said "this will not affect Classic".   So I re-formatted it and checked that, and now it allowed me to install OS9.2 on it, and now Classic works fine.   It still refused to recognize the smaller partition of my main HDD, which is where I really wanted to install it.
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Cd-rom with classic program won't load after installing classic

I tried to install a program that said it required classic support, so I installed classic from my installation disk.
Classic seems to be running without any problems, but now when I put in the cd-rom for the software I was trying to install it won't mount.
Other cd's seem to mount fine, but not this one.
Am I missing an extension or driver to mount a cd in OS 9?

WithaK, do you mean Classic 9 seems to be running on top of OS X, or that you booted the Mac is pure OS 9, please?
If Classic 9 is running over X, any CD should behave exactly as it did before until perhaps you try to view it from an OS 9 application.
If the Mac is booted in pure OS 9 it might need some format translators so exactly which files in System Folder>Extensions have the words "File Access" on the end of their names, please?

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I recently had a disk failure on my 500 MHz G3 imac. This machine
originally came with OS 9 and I upgraded it over the years to Tiger.
After the failure, I purchased a new disk
and re-installed Tiger onto in. I would now like to reinstall my old
classic environment so that I can run some old applications.
I have the original iMac DV disks:
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"Software Restore" SSW Version 9.0.4 CD Version 2.1
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I've tried running the installer from inside OS X as is indicated on the apple support site but the computer complains that it can not run the installer
without having classic already installed!
How can I install classic? I've thought about booting from the Classic CD
but am worried that this will wipeout my Tiger installation.
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-sanjay
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Hi, s_g -
Use the Software Install CD, not the Software Restore CD.
Boot the machine to the CD, then run the installer. Select to do a Clean Install of OS 9.0.4 - a Clean Install will not remove anything.
Article #58176 - Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9: Performing a Clean Installation
Then proceed through the rest of the installer's pages, accepting a standard install.
Note (1) - I would turn off the Update Driver portion of the installer (its default is 'on'), since, if you've installed OSX, the drivers are already updated past what the OS 9.0.4 installer can provide.
Note (2) - the Startup Disk control panel that comes with a standard OS 9.1 and earlier install is not capable of 'seeing' OSX as a valid boot OS, so without modifying OS 9.0.4 once you boot to it you will not be able to switch back to OSX withut booting to an OSX CD first.
There is a solution - download and install this replacement Startup Disk control panel -
Startup Disk 9.2.1 Document and Software
<hr>
OS 9.0.4 can not be used as Classic by OSX. If you do want a Classic-capable OS 9 install, you will need to update it to at least OS 9.1; OS's 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 offer better compatibility in the Classic mode.
Article #75103 - Mac OS 9.1 - Download and Info
Article #120030 - Mac OS 9.2.1 - Download and Info
Article #75186 - Mac OS 9.2.2 - Download and Info

Can't install Classic support in 10.4.11

Hi. I recently reformatted the HD on my iMac and re-installed 10.4.11. I now realize that I need to run an OS 9 app in Classic but I'm having trouble re-installing support for the Classic app. Following instructions elsewhere, I'm using the disc "Software Install and Restore (Includes Apple Hardware Test)" that came with my iMac. On this disc there is an installer for Classic support. However, when I run this app from the disc (without re-boot from disc), eventually I am prompted to insert the very disc that's already in the machine. Ejecting and re-inserting the disc doesn't do anything. And when I re-boot from the disc, the only choice I'm given is to re-install 10.2 using either the "Archive and Install" option or the "Erase" disc option. I don't like either of these options, particularly since it's not even clear that I'll be able to then install Classic after doing all that, not to mention having to re-install everything else again!
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Hi, gracebug. Installing and using OS 9 for Classic mode does not require OS 9 drivers to be installed. They're only needed if you want to start the computer up in OS 9, which isn't possible with your Mac anyway.
See whether these articles help you get Classic support installed, and let us know how you make out:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA23296
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh763.html
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My brother recently gave me two old laptops: a clamshell iBook and a second generation iBook. The clamshell doesn't start at all, and I have given it up as a lost cause, but the other iBook seems to work just fine, with one significant exception. Whenever I try to start up Classic, I receive an error message reading "The system software on the startup disk only functions on the original media, not if copied to another drive". My brother swears he didn't do anything to it, and says that it had been in a dresser drawer for more than a year before he gave it to me. He hasn't got any of the disks that came with it.
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HI, FortunaMajor, and welcome to Apple Discussions. The error message you've quoted is usually seen when a System Folder has been copied from an installer CD instead of installed by the installer application on the CD. The system Folder on an OS 9 CD is designed only for use in booting the computer from the CD, and not for any other purpose.
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