Installing Elements 6 (non Admin account)

I have been reading the posts in the forum regarding Elements as this is software which I am considering for purchase with Barbara Brundage's book. I have recently switched to a mac which I love and don't want to introduce problems which I might be able to avoid by asking first. Permissions etc are new to me as my experience with Windows was just to run as Admin something I don't want to do in Leopard.
I posted in one thread http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8912633#8912633
My initial concerns came from user reviews about the actual install which has now had more light shed on it as I run as a Standard user on my Mac. I have an Admin account created n day one but only use this to do my updates and install iWorks plus the new iLife when it arrives. Day to day I am a standard user but after reading the post I have linked I am now unsure if I could use Elements as a standard user even if I did the install from my Admin account.
I prefer to be a standard use on the Mac therefore would appreciate advice if it is possible to use Elements as myself or do I have to create another account (Admin user) which doesn't have all my photos etc in order to run Elements smoothly?
I am also considering Aperture but think I still need Elements for extra tools. Hopefully someone will know if this is possible as a standard user. My initial thoughts were to install from Admin account and then log out and start to use Elements as my own account but this is where the big question comes in after reading the way Adobe installs and works with permissions.
I will be prepared to wait rather than find I have introduced problems by the wrong type of install and use. Thanks for any advice, I have checked Adobe's forum and various read reviews but still haven't overcome my worries about this.

ld simply keep their photos in their Home Folder and use Photoshop Elements to process them.
Thank you Roger your help is appreciated as it helps with my other installs too.
I am still uncertain if Elements will work for me as a standard user as the other topic made me aware of problems which I presume would make my use as a standard user after the install troublesome?
Quote from http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1806242&start=30&tstart=0
+Elements needs to be installed by admin account, and to be run from the same account or you can run into a problem with certain things not working correctly. Some of the permissions on some of the files are just plain wrong. On my own install I went in and changed them to what they really ought to be so that everything works in all *admin accounts*.+
Thank you for your patience with my feeble understanding of the way Elements would work for me if I am not a day to day Admin. Hopefully I am thinking along the wrong path and I would be able to continue with my account setup using Elements after the Admin install.

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