Installing FCS2. Did Archive and Install. Now what?

I got studio 2 today and didn't like the idea of installing it over Studio. I searched and the gurus say don't do it. I'm confused about archive and install. If I do it do I just drag all the Studio apps in the trash after I do the Archive and Install or do I drag the apps in the trash before then install FCS2.
Any help would be appreciated.
Erik

You got that right. I cloned my drive with SuperDuper then used Migration Assistant to move all my settings and users files over. No applications where moved. It was pretty easy. I'm still loading all my programs which is a drag but everything else is already been moved and that would have been a whole lot harder to deal with. I have three users on this Mac. Lots of files and folders. This was the first time I have done this and I did learn a few things. I have been making images of all my software and the updates keeping them all in a folder on a separate drive. next time I have to do this I will just open the image and sit back. No sticking disks in. And its faster. I have Leopard sitting on my desk but not brave enough to try it out just yet. I need a stable edit bay right now. I wish I could get a Intel mac just for FCP. Now that would be sweet. The G5 is still kicken but il bet this Studio 2 upgrade will be the last one for a G5.

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I have heard its best for permormance purposes to do an erase and install, but is that really true? it seems like much less of a hassle to just do the archive and install. any thoughts?

Jeff,
To me, there is not much difference in doing an Erase and Install as opposed to an Archive and Install but NOT preserving user settings...
An erase and install might be a little better but not much plus you would need to reinstall everything.
With an Archive and Install and NOT preserving user settings, you still have a brand new system with nothing from the old system installed... However, you do have a folder called "Previous Systems" which has all your stuff in it... If you want some stuff out of that folder, you can get it.. Otherwise, if you throw that folder out, it will be just about as good as an Erase and Install....
Now, an Archive and Install and preserving user settings is a little different because it does bring things over from the old system....

Archive and Install help

After getting the blue screen when installing Leopard, I've decided to re-install using the "Archive and Install" feature. After reading the documents here on Apple's site, I'm a bit confused. Can someone please give me a Coles Notes version of how Archive and Install works? Mainly:
What do I need to backup myself? There's a document on Apple's site which discusses the steps for backing up your address book and such... doesn't Archive and Install do this?
I also have Adobe CS3 on my Mac. Will I have to re-install this?
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Hi Paul Ouimette;
Yes, the Archive & Install does back up the previous system so saying that you should backup may seen a bit redundant. The only problem with that logic is that it assumes that the A&I will go perfectly. If for any reason it doesn't, you can be left high and dry. Most time it does go well but personally I am a bit of a belt and suspenders guy so I always create a clone before doing anything as major as an A&I.
I did an A&I recently and my applications were there. I did have to enter the serial number for CS3 and Aperture again. My dashboard widgets were there though.
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however - after restarting - I followed the on screen instructions etc and am now on my desktop with Leopard working ok - but none of my stuff is there - no itunes library, no documents, no bookmarks etc - they do exist in the "previous systems" folder - but I thought they would be added automatically - am I missing something - is it to do with the "repair permissions" on disk utility - do I have to run this to get my files etc put onto Leopard - or has something gone wrong and I'm going to have to copy them all over one by one?
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In order for the transfer to occur you must have selected the option to preserve users and network settings. Apparently you did not check that option and will need to move your files manually from the Previous System Folder. This article will help: How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install.

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Hello,
I just tried to archive and install my 10.5.8 installation from my original 10.5.6 installation DVD. This is the DVD I originally used to install on this computer, I then upgraded via "Software Update" to 10.5.8.
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WTHeck? am I out of luck and need to buy a new install DVD to archive and install it?
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Did you follow these directions?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710?viewlocale=en_US
Should be working.
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Lost files after doing Archive and Install

After I did Archive and Install I went to the home screen and all my files were gone. Where are they save? I'm not talking about my applications, I'm talking about documents and iTunes music,etc.
Please help.

I assume you did not check the option to preserve users and network settings when you did the Archive and Install. You will find everything in the Previous System Folder.
See How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install.

Partitions not mounting after Archive and Install

I have just installed 10.4 after putting it off for ages. My machine is G4DA with 1.5ghz processor upgrade and a Sonnet ATA133 card for hooking up my 180gb Seagate 7200.7 HD.
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I did and Archive and Install on MBP with 10.4.11...now what?

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I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back

I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back to the "Archive" of my 10.4.11 System from the "Previous Systems" folder? If not, what's the point of creating the "archive"?

Did you select "Preserve User Settings"?
Archive and Install installation automatically moves existing system files to a folder named Previous System, then installs Mac OS X again. (See tip 3.) You cannot start up your computer using a Previous System folder, nor can you "re-bless" the Previous System folder. (See tip 1.)
You can choose to preserve your user and network settings before installing. This option automatically moves existing users, Home directories, and network settings. This also skips the Setup Assistant after installation.
Note: Because the "Preserve user and network settings" option moves, not copies, existing users, Home directories, and network settings, from the Previous Systems folder to the newly installed System, these items will not exist in the Previous Systems folder after the Archive and Install is complete.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1710
Read this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2196
BTW, it is never recommended to do a major OS change without having a full, bootable backup.

Archive and Install - what now?

I installed Leopard yesterday via Archive and Install. So far everything is working great. I have never installed a Mac OS before (recent switcher...first upgrade) and Archive and Install felt like an upgrade. Everything is exactly as it was before installing Leopard. My question is what to do with the Previous System folder that was left behind. Do I need it? Do I need to sort through every folder and subfolder to find items that weren't copied over to the new system, or is there an easier way? So far, Leopard is running fine, and I see no need to keep the Previous System folder. I had also cloned my hard drive to an external hard drive. Do I still need a Tiger backup or can I delete it? Thanks in advance for your help.

badefou,
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
If the previous system folder is not on the top level of your Macintosh HD, you probably did not actually use the "Archive and Install" installation feature.
WhatSize is a shareware tool that allows the user to quickly measure the size in bytes of a given folder and all subfolders and files within it.
I noticed that you posted this question in several other threads. If my information will not provide an answer for you, I suggest opening your very own question in this forum. That will get your question noticed better than Hijacking this thread. By the way, I am not chastising you by using that word, just using the common term for adding your question to someone else's question.
;~)

What to do after an Archive and Install operation?

Hello:
Near the end of a hard drive defrag on the laptop using Drive Genius, something (I am not sure what) caused the computer to shut down before the defrag had finished. Most of the hard drive info. ended up in a folder called Lost and Found. The Directory probably got damaged.
The only solution I could see was to do an Archive and Install operation. The laptop had been backed-up, but the backup was not very current.
DiskWarrior brought the laptop back to life. Some information and apps were manually dragged over from the backup copy. I now have the unsavory task of having to sift through a thousand folders in Lost and Found folder to see if there are any large chunks of folders/files which are salvageable. If I can determine where the files belong, I will drag them there.
Meanwhile, I have a former System Folder in the "Previous System" Folder. Inside is a file named 'mach.sym' and three folders named 'etc, tftpboot and var'.
QUESTIONS:
1. How does a person reclaim the former System Folder back into the rebuilt Hard Drive?
2. Any helpful suggestions or comments .... are we doing the right things to get the laptop back into shape?
Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the assurance note; I will go ahead and trash the former System Folder. I assume the re-installing program dumped the former System Folder into a new folder in order to get it out of the way so that a new System Folder could be installed. I did not remember that the old folder needed to be manually hauled to the trash.
As there are now quite a few folders missing their former data files, I suspect these files are gone for good. So far it does not appear that anything absolutely critical is missing......other than my sanity for being so lax in maintaining scheduled backups!

Archive and Install... or ... Where did my pictures go?

Ok, so I had to total brain malfunction and did a Archive and Install when I did the last OS update. So now my user account is gone and hiding inside the "previous system" folder. I'd really like to retrieve iPhoto albums, pictures, books, events, etc. Is it possible?
Thanks!
John

Next time select the option to preserve User and internet settings (I think that's what it's called). This will keep your account intact so you don't have to retrieve it from the Previous System folder.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

HELP! I did an archive and install and I want my old system back

Hello,
I had a big problem that actually ended up being a small problem. Unfortunately to try to fix it I did an archive and install. Now I have come to the realization that my Postfix mail setup, my MySQL setup, my PHP setup, my web pages, my Blog are all gone. Now if I go into the "previous system" folder everything seems to be there. Is there a way to just restore the old system to get all that back without having to reconfigure and redo everything?
I tried to copy the old "Library" back out to the / folder, the problem is that this folder is constantly in use and cannot be replaced.
Any advice?
PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Ghz

Joshua:
You said you did an Archive and Install. You did not say whether this was an upgrade or you were re-installing Tiger.
I suggest you read the article linked above, if you have not already done so, and it will give you an idea of what happened. If you chose to preserve User Settings, it should all be there in your new Library. All you need to do it move over your data and you'll be fine. Otherwise you can just move over your entire Users Folder and it will have everything you need.
You said that you want your old system back. I am not sure if you are saying that you want to go to a previous OS, like Panther, or whether you want your computer back the way it was.
a couple of other points, if I may:
1. Re-installation, by whatever method, should always be a avenue of last resort. It is the ultimate invasive therapy and likely result in the situation you are in or worse. Every other avenue should be exhausted before resorting to this rememdy.
2. A good backup strategy is a life saver. During any major procedure, and sometimes without any procedure just of out the blues, your computer can fail and you can lose all your data, your third party apps etc. It is good practice to preferably clone your entire computer to an external Firewire Drive that can also be used as an emergency boot disk.
OK, I gave you much more information that you requested. However, I hope something I said was helpful in terms of recovering your settings and data. Please post back and let me know.
Good luck.
cornelius

Performed Archive and Install now Previous System User File is Empty

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Help!
I do have backups of most things - but there is no room on my hard drive to restore from my backup.

How much space DO you have?
If you can boot from another fdrive for now, that;d be good.
How much free space is on the HD, where has all the space gone?
OmniDiskSweeper is now free, and likely the best/easiest...
http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnidisksweeper/
Perhaps they are there but invisible!?
If you want to try to recover them, you should quit using the computer asap. Possibility exists of losing everything. Backup if at all possible.
Unfortunately DU can't fix all that much, your best bet is DiskWarrior, you need the CD though.
http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/
If DW can't fix it, you might try Data Rescue II...
http://www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue.php
(Has a Free Demo to see if it could or not, but you'll need another drive to recover to).
Or FileSalvage...
http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?%20mainpage=product_info&productsid=1
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Archive and Install or... where did my music go?

Ok, so I had to total brain malfunction and did a Archive and Install when I did the last OS update. So now my user account is gone and hiding inside the "previous system" folder. I'd really like to retrieve iTunes albums, music, movies, playlists, iphone data, etc. Is it possible?
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Yes - just copy them to where you want them...though I can't figure out why they would be in the previous system folder and not in the new one.

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