Installing Leopard (regular) over Tiger (server)

Today we tried to install Leopard on a G5 tower which had previously been running the server version of Tiger. It gave us a message about being unable to just write over the system because the regular OS cannot replace server, so it would have to put all the system preferences and user accounts and all in a folder labeled "previous system" on the hard drive and then it would install the OS. We told it to do that, and it ran the install. At the very end (after about an hour and a half of installing), it gave us an error saying that it was unable to complete the installation because we were trying to put the regular version over Server and to try installing it again. We clicked the "Install" button, but it had put approximately 11 GB of who knows what on the computer, and now wants another 11 GB for the new install, but we don't have 11 GB free. You try to start the computer up without the Leopard install disk in and it does the "OS? What OS?" thing (folder with a flashing question mark), but if you have the Leopard install disk in, it tells you all about needing to create the "previous system" folder etc. and needing more disk space to accomplish this. Any ideas as to what we could try if we really don't want to reformat the drive?
Thanks.

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I'm the sysadmin hat wearer at work. We're running PHD and OD for a collection of iMacs in the office here with Tiger Server and Tiger Clients, (runs well).
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You may want to consult this post:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7295681#7295681
Not entirely relevant but it does contain something that might be useful? You are only talking about one Leopard client so it should not be that much of a problem? Although how far you have customized your environment from the 'norm' - whatever that is - may affect how successful you are?
If its a new model iMac I doubt very much if you can 'downgrade' anyway. Have a look at the mac specific system disks that come with it as that will be the lowest version OS that can be installed. You may be able to downgrade it with some effort if you really try - I doubt it - but what would be the point of that? 'Breaking' something to 'fix' an unknown is never really successful is it?
As for posts mentioning problems? That is what the forum is for. It does not necessarily follow that you will see those problems. There are just as many - if not more - with little or no problems who - of course - don't post.
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Maybe I should take a different approach. The software seems fine as is, I'd read that simply not opening the server app would effectively mean I'd be more or less in client mode anyway. However I've had a few odd issues which may or may not be server related.
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-mj
[email protected]
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