Installing Mac OS X on external Seagate firewire drive

I've dropped in on some of the discussions on this topic and have tried most stuff, but my 10.4.3 disc will not let me install on the Seagate drive even though it is mounted. I'm still backing up to that drive, but is that accomplishing anything if I don't have an operating system installed?
They included BounceBack software and it backs everything up, but will frequently omit a scheduled backup and I'm not sure why.

You won't be able to install certain applications directly on it. The reason is that it isn't the boot drive, and many prefer to be on a boot drive. Unfortunately, the Blue and White G3 can't boot off Firewire hard disks, so really the only verification you have that the clone works is either to put the drive inside the Blue and White G3 by taking it ouside of the case that Seagate gave it (assuming the drive is under 128 GB), or hooking it up to another Mac and testing to see if it boots that Mac. If you install on the internal drive of the Blue and White, and then clone the Blue and White to the Seagate, that should work.

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Allan,
I can boot fine from the external, partitioned firewire drive if i first set my "start up disk" preferences to the external drive.
But i if have my "system startup disk" preferences set to the internal drive (as it is normally), shut the machine down, then try a cold start holding down the "option" key, the G5 won't recognize the external drive (partitioned) as an optional system from which to start up from.
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The other day my internal hard drive in my MacBook started to click. I did a hardware test, and the drive now doesn't show up at all, either in the test or when I go to install Mac OS X.
Is it possible to buy an external Firewire hard drive, and install Mac OS X on it, even though the internal hard drive isn't recognised?
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FireWire Bus:
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
1394:
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STEVEN:
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hi all,
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2. When partitioning, use the GUID partition scheme option to prep the drive.
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Someone jump in if I'm wrong...
EDIT: OWC has this interesting tip.
-mj
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I had just completed a fresh install of OS X on my PowerPC iMac G5 using the “Erase & Install” feature.
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Yes, I didn't think it was very good either!
You are correct in I should have said "Repair Disk" - Verify Permissions is not available on the maxtor drive ( it is dimmed) in Repair Disk.
Until now, the drive has worked perfectly, and I did not install any of Maxtors software when I originally connected the drive to this system, I just formatted it as a Mac Extended and it worked great. It was only after the fresh Erase & Install - even then it worked fine. It was only when I created a new account that the problem started.
What I have done is get hold of a demo version of a program called "Mac Drive 6" which allows you to read any Mac formatted disk or drive on a Windows system, - fortunately i still have my Windows XP Pro system which I have also connected to my home network.
So for the next four days (the length of the demo) I can access all of my files on the disk and copy them to my Windows system.
This is really great because I have all my data and images back which were my biggest concern.
I thought I might get another drive anyhow, and when I have everything backed up on a new drive and on the Windows system, I can then reformat the Maxtor drive and start afresh with it.
Thanks for all your help anyhow.

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