Installing new internal HD-Master/Slave question

Hey gang. So you guys answered my original question of replacing the original hard drive in my G4 AGP Sawtooth. Thanks again! My next question concerns the whole Master/Slave aspect. The 2nd internal drive I put in several years ago is a Maxtor 120 or 160 gig. It was obviously a PATA drive but it's what's running OSX for me.
Does that mean it is the "master" drive? And when I install my new SATA PCI card will I want to run both drives off that? Probably so since it is the Serial kind but will I be able to connect the Maxtor 120gig PATA to the new PCI card? The new internal drive is a Seagate 500gig 7200.11 SATA. Should this be the "master" and then maybe slave the 120gig? I may be wayyy off on my terminology here but just wondering. The new PCI card is only 2-ports so I'm also assuming that I can only run 2 intern drives off of it. (oh, its a Sonnet Tempo 2-port Serial ATA PCI card)
Okay, I've thoroughly confused myself now but I think the short of it is..how should I configure it? Thanks so much ahead of time!

Although I suspect you may get the info you need in this forum from japamac, who has at least one older G4, remember this area is for the later G4 Mirrored Drive Door and FireWire 800 models. Their hard drives are configured differently from yours. The Sawtooth is technically covered within this forum:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=113
which is for all G4 minitowers older than the MDD.

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Another Master/Slave question HELP!

Hey gang. So you guys answered my original question of replacing the original hard drive in my G4 AGP Sawtooth. Thanks again! My next question concerns the whole Master/Slave aspect. The 2nd internal drive I put in several years ago is a Maxtor 120 or 160 gig. It was obviously a PATA drive but it's what's running OSX for me.
Does that mean it is the "master" drive? And when I install my new SATA PCI card will I want to run both drives off that? Probably so since it is the Serial kind but will I be able to connect the Maxtor 120gig PATA to the new PCI card? The new internal drive is a Seagate 500gig 7200.11 SATA. Should this be the "master" and then maybe slave the 120gig? I may be wayyy off on my terminology here but just wondering. The new PCI card is only 2-ports so I'm also assuming that I can only run 2 internal drives off of it. (oh, its a Sonnet Tempo 2-port Serial ATA PCI card)
Okay, I've thoroughly confused myself now but I think the short of it is..how should I configure it? Thanks so much ahead of time!

Are you saying a slave drive can't be the boot drive with OS X?
That's what I meant to say, but after doing more research, I find I am almost completely WRONG. It appears I have wildly over-generalized the narrow warning in this article:
106442- Mac OS X 10.0, 10.1: Installer Does Not Display Hard Disk
The gist of which says: that particular obsolete Installer cannot cope with installing on a Slave When no Master is Present! ONLY
I could find no other prohibitions against Installing to, or Booting from, Slave drives, and that narrow case will work as long as a Master is present.
I am guilty of propagating a superstition as if it were a fact, and I deeply regret that. Thank you for coming forward with the correct information!

Upgrade system or install new internal HD first

Hello all and thanks in advance.
I am currently on a mid 2007 imac (imac7,1) with 10.5.8 instaled and running. This computer so far has been nothing but great. So much so I dont know some things which must be basics for many of you.
Recently however, I started seeing some lag and hang-ups while performing regular tasks with safari or even finder. FYI-I typically dont rock more than 2 programs due to my limited ram as specd below, and if I am running Lightroom I make sure its the only one. I've been concerned with how old my OS is and lack of updates being released so I just got a snow leopard disk witch I will soon install. I also got a new external hd for backing up a photo library which is also on an existing external. While waiting for snow leopard and my new external hd in the mail, ive discovered running the system profiler shows many many many "open error 5: "input/output...." lines. A helpful search here leads me to believe my internal hd may soon suffer from immenent failure.
I was planning on simply updating my system from leopard to snow leopard...I have several programs of which I no longer have the disk for - I wasnt previosly considering a clean install.
So my question is should I
A - simply install snow leopard and make a bootable clone on the new exteranl drive I was hoping to use for photo storage untill I can replace the external?
B - Make a bootable clone to my new external first then updatemy OS and do a new bootable clone?
C - Make a bootable clone, replace my internal hd, then upgrade OS
D - Make a bootable clone and update that (is that even possible) and live with it
D - Something I am not thinking off?
My head is spining and I see so many ways I can mess up that which many of you must see as simple! Ive been so fortunate that this stuff has never failed so all of the above options no matter what i choose will be a first.
FYI the new external is a my book studio with firewire 800.

Woops, I forgot to mention everything is being backed up on an external via time machine. I wasnt clear enough.
Here is my hd breakdown:
1 - Existing ineterna hd which is failing I think
2 - Existing OWC portable used for time Machine backups.
3 - Existing WD my book studio External drive used for photo library. This is lightrooms library and I work directly off of it. photos are backed up onto my existing internal hd.
4 - New WD my book studio with nothing on it yet (was going to use it for photos and free up internal hd, but now rethinking that)
Yah, my machine is pretty old. I will take a look at the OWC 6gb upgrade to stay informed but like you pointed out, dont know how much its worth to invest in something so old. Short of bying some externals, I have no hardware money put into this computer. Thats why im not too worried about putting in a new internal if it comes down to that. Im a little familiar with the upgrade path to ML and understand my particular computers issues with going that route. I think for the short future, I'd simpy like to get onto snow leopard.
So still, im wondering, how should I proceed with this new external, upgrading my system, and replacing my internal hd?
Thanks

Could not see my photos after Installing new internal drive

Aaarrgghhh! I installed a new internal drive to keep data separate from applications, transferred all the data to the new drive and now all the work I did in sorting thousands of photos has gone, same with iTunes. Does anytone know how to restore my categories of photos and tunes?
thanks

Before anyone can help, they need information to work with. Basic stuff: What version of iPhoto. What version of the Operating System. Details. What were you doing when the problem arose? Did it ever work properly? Step-by-step descriptions of how you got to this issue. If something doesn't work, are there error messages? What happens when you try to do this thing? And what steps have you tried already to solve the issue. With this kind of information somebody can develop a starting point for troubleshooting the issue.
Posts that consist of "iPhoto doesn't work. Help" or "iPhoto won't print" or "Suddenly I have no photos!!!!!!!!!!" mean that a helper is simply guessing. With information, s/he may be able to get your issue resolved sooner.

Installing OSX after installing new internal harddrive in MacBook

I am installing new 250GB harddrive in my MacBook. After installation, do I have to reinstall OSX from the Leopard disc, or is there a way to do it from my backups on an external drive created with Time Machine?

First you need to prep your new drive:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. If you need to reformat your startup volume, then you must boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (only required for Intel Macs) then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
To restore from a TM backup see Restoring files from a Time Capsule backup. Note that the procedures are basically the same for restoring from a TM backup on a non-Time Capsule backup drive.

Installing new internal hard drive. How do I safely clone my existing BOOTCAMP partition?

I have a 13 inch Aluminum Late 2008 MacBook. Processor 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4 (11E53). Currently I have a 160 GB SATA disk as my hard drive a d 4 GB of memory. (Is it time to upgrade or what?) I recently bought a Western Digital 1 TB internal hard drive to replace my exisiting internal hard drive. I spent a lot of time last night trying to first- connect this new hard drive to my computer so that I can then clone the existing hard drive and then hoping that I would get that done so I could install the new hard drive. No such luck.
My current hard drive is partitioned as follows:
Name: Macintosh HD
Format: Mac OS Extended (journaled)
Size: 132.5 GB
Name: BOOTCAMP
Format: Windows NT File System (NTFS)
Size: 26.69 GB
When I was partitioning the new drive I did so as follows:
Name: Macintosh HD
Format: Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Size: 973.51 GB
Name: BOOTCAMP
Format: MS-DOS (FAT) --- This was the only option that I was given that I thought would work. I did not have the option of "Windows NT File System (NTFS) to choose from. Question # 1: is that going to be a problem? I only run 1 program on Windows and that is the only reason I have BOOTCAMP on there at all. However, I do HAVE to have that program. Like I said it didn't give me the option to choose Windows so I didn't know where to go with this. Any help with that would be awesome.
Size: 26.34 GB (I just used the same size that was current, or close to it.)
I connected the Western Digital 1 TB through an external device, partitioned it as stated above, and then used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the drives. The first one went through fine. (It took 2 hours and I went to bed before it finished.) This morning I woke to see that it had gone through well. I then started the process with the BOOTCAMP drives. However, before I started it gave me errors stating that I wouldn't be able to run Windows off of the Cloned BOOTCAMP drive. Question #2: Is it because of the Format type I chose when partitioning? Or something else? I am unsure where to go from here. I would really appreciate any help that is out there. I would love to get this new drive installed ASAP. Thank you so much in advance!

Well yes and no. I succeeded with the clone. All of the information seems to be there. However, it isn't showing in the system preferences - start up disk -- as a start up disk option. Therefore I assume it didn't clone correctly, or at least not in a way to use it the way I was. I am thinking it may be a better idea to just run Parallels or a similar software program. I rarely use the software that has to run in Windows. And maybe that will be the easiest way. I think I will still have to change the way I have it because I assume if it isn't running as it was before now I must have done something wrong.
I am unsure of where to go from here. But know that I really do appreciate your help.

Installed New Internal HD, Mac OSX will not install...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I installed a brand new Hitachi 120Gb drive this morning. Put in Install disk that came with my 12" PB and ran disk utility. i erased the disk and set it up for Extended (Journaling)
It has a mount point of:
/Volumes/Macintosh HD and the S.M.A.R.T status word is not even there.
Anyone know how i rectify this as when i go to instsll the OS it says:
'You cannot install Mac OSX on this volume. You cannot start up with this disk'

tripoli:
Try this:
Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive
Warning! This procedure will destroy all data on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure you have an up-to-date, tested backup of at least your Users folder and any third party applications you do not want to re-install before attempting this procedure.
Boot from the install CD holding down the "C" key.
Select language
Go to the Utilities menu (Tiger) Installer menu (Panther & earlier) and launch Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select Partition tab in main panel. (You are about to create a single partition volume.)
Select number of partition in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
(Note: 1 partition is normally better for an internal HDD. External HDDs usually have more than one)
Type in name in Name field (usually Macintosh HD)
Select Volume Format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Click Partition button at bottom of panel.
Select Erase tab
Select the _sub-volume under Manufacturer ID_ (usually Macintosh HD).
Check to be sure your Volume Name and Volume Format are correct.
Select on Security Options button (Tiger) Options button (Panther & earlier).
Select Zero all data. (This process could take several hours. If you want a quicker method, don't go to Security Options and just click the Erase button.)
Click OK.
Click Erase button
Quit Disk Utility.
Open installer and begin installation process.
Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Check box to install X11 (Tiger) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
Proceed with installation.
After installation computer will restart for setup.
After setup, reboot computer.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Connect to Internet.
Download and install 10.4.10 Combo update
Computer will restart after updates.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Please post back with further questions or comments.
Good luck.
cornelius
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How to Install New Internal Hard Drive on Mac Pro Laptop

My wifes 15 in Mid 2010 lap top running 10.8.4 has run out of drive space so we bought a new 1tb drive to install. We aren't sure where to go from here. The current contents are back up on Time Machine, but we also bought a small hard drive enclosure to take out the current hard drive and put it in the small enclosure.
So...do we install the new 1tb drive into the laptop and then try and start from the original hard drive that is now in an enclousure...then "Copy" or "Migrate" the material from the original hard drive to the new on? If so...how is that done?
Or do we try and "Copy" or "Migrate" the hard drive materials backed up on Time Machine? If so...how do we do that?
Thank you!

After formatting the new hdd, while still outside the mac, make a clone of your internal disk with CarbonCopyCloner on the new (still external) disk: CCC will ask you to install the Recovery Partition also, do that, and then the clone.
Then you eject the new drive, shutdown, and then you open the mac take the original disk out, and put the new one in.
On the OWC and other sites you will find instructions how to do the switch. Be very careful with the connectors inside .

Installed new hard drive and flashing question mark appears

I bought a new hard drive for my macbook pro (mid 2009) because my original harddrive bit the dust... I purchased it off of amazon which states that its specifically for macbooks and the reviews appeared to back it up. I saw a lot of people with great reviews of the same model of macbook that I have so I figured it was the best solution.. I connected the new hard drive but I am getting the dreaded flashing folder/question mark. Is this normal before re-installing the OS x? Heres the problem, I am out of town on business and do not have the original OSx disc on hand. So my question is, is the flashing question mark normal upon installing a new harddrive? and if so, is there away to install the OSx onto the new harddrive without the disc?
my macbook was running mavericks before the harddrive went to poo, however I did try to re-install mavericks before i ultimately realized that I needed to new harddrive. I noticed that rebooting my mac with command+r would give me the option to reinstall mavericks without a disc or anything. the next question I have is, would this still be do-able on the new harddrive? I tried the command+R option on the new harddrive but nothing happens.
Can someone help me out here, I am getting a little desperate as I have gone over a week without my mac and theres so crucial things I need to get done! Luckily I have all my stuff backed up on an external hard drive, I just need to get the mac running again. Thanks for taking time to read!

1. Yes, it is normal. If there's no OS on the drive, there's nothing to take the computer past that point.
2. No, there's no way on that Mac model. You need to use an existing system(see #4).
3. Not on that Mac model; it doesn't have the Internet Recovery system, and there isn't a recovery partition on the new drive.
4. If the backup drive contains a bootable clone of any compatible OS, or a Time Machine backup created from Mac OS X 10.8 or newer, connect it and restart the computer with the Option key held down. If it doesn't contain either, you can't.
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Installed new internal hard drive, not working

Hello everyone. I have an iMac model # A1224. My hard drive crashed, therefore I purchased this one:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Hitachi/0S02860/
I have installed it and when I turn it on I get the gray screen with a blinking question mark. Anyone have any idea why it would do this with my new hard drive. Thank you.

Well, did you reinstall the operating system? If not, yes, you're going to get a blinking question mark, because the Mac doesn't have a system to boot from! You need to use your Mac's installation DVD or a newer retail version of OS X to either install a new clean system, or recover from any Time Machine backup you may have.
Matt

Installing New Internal HD

Hello all,
I have decided to self-install a Seagate Momentus 750gb internal drive into my early-2011 macbook pro 15" because the original HD was "about to fail" . I am unclear as to the steps necessary , once the new drive is physically installed , to get back to a functioning computer with OS X 10.7 . Can I simply power on and reach this point http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/index.cfm?page=HDDppcintelformat/HDDppcint elformat.html ? It seems unlikely to me that a completely blank drive will have Disk Utility ready and waiting on it ? And , once the drive is succesfully formatted , will it be possible to download Mountain Lion using the OS X Internet Recovery ?
thank you all ever so much for any and all assistance

e.forrest.m wrote:
ah ha , this is a problem . indeed , my MBP is an early-2011 15" meaning snow leopard was pre-installed . i no longer have the discs . what now ?
Your easiest method is to create a USB thumb drive with your current Lion install's Recovery HD using the OS X Recovery Disk Assistant from Apple. Install this on your current system and run the app to create the thumb drive. THEN you can use that to boot into the OS X Utilities menu after you install your new drive. Create the thumb drive and test it first.
I would still do a clone of your current drive if you can. You need some sort of backup so you can restore your data.
If you have a current Time Machine backup with Lion on it, you can boot from that which will provide the OS X Utilities menu so you can format the new drive and reinstall Lion. Boot from this first to test so you understand what I'm talking about.
Edited: I suggest you still try the Command+R+Option keys at boot time to test out and see if you have this feature. I had a late 2010 MBP and after Lion was released, a new EFI firmware update came along that allowed THAT MBP to boot into Internet Recovery and reinstall Lion. The update also provides this functionality to early 2011 models.That 2010 MBP came preinstalled with SL too. So, if you have kept your MBP current with all the updates, you may have gotten an EFI firmware update that allows your MBP to use Internet Recovery.

Installed new internal drive - how can I lock it

Hi
I installed a second internal drive. We have 3 users in out family and each have there own desktops. The second internal drive is for my video files and I want to keep it from being trashed or ejected by my other family members since it's on their desktop. Any way to do this?
Thank you for your time

Hello skyjamvideos,
Permission settings determine who can view and alter an item. To control access to items, Mac OS X automatically sets permissions for disks, folders, and files. To change these permissions, select your drive with the Finder and then choose File > Get Info. In the Get Info window, if the Sharing & Permissions pane is not visible, click the disclosure triangle to show it. This pane should show that "You can read and write" plus a list of users and privilege. The default privileges for a Volume with a GUID Partition and formated to Mac OS Extended (Journaled) should be: "system" has "Read & Write", "admin" has "Read & Write" & "everyone" has "Read only". To keep it away from other users, click the lock icon, type in your administrator's name and password then click OK. Now click on the "Read only" privileges next to everyone and change it to "No Access" from the popup box.
Test this out before saving or moving any important stuff to this drive and let me know if this worked.
Good Luck.
Buzz

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My HDD failed and I need to install a new one -- any recommendations? After installation is there anyting I need to be concerend with -- I heard there was an issue with auto-regulating the fan speed when aftermarket drives are installed. Lastly, after installation how does the computer know to boot...where is the bios located so that I can tell it to look for my time capsul to reinstall OS X, etc?
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You have got a Mid 2011 iMac, so you need a 3'5" HDD. You can buy the one you want to. Have a look at OWC > http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/3.5-SerialATA/
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I have searched...I promise.
Most likely I am just to ignorant too figure this out.
I took delivery of my new MacPro yesterday as well as 8g of RAM from OWC and two extra 1TB drives from OWC.
Stock config is 2x3.0ghz quad/2x1g RAM/1TB HD.
I successfully added the two additional hard drives and the RAM...when I go to about this Mac, it does see 10gb of RAM and in further details, the new hard drives in 2 and 3 bays.
When I first powered up the Mac, it came up with an unrecognized drive screen and gave me several partition and RAID options. I didn't know what to choose, so I exited out and can't seem to find that screen:)
Ultimately, my plan is to have two drives for OSX and one for Windows. I have a retail version of Windows on me...and I don't knoow what to do next.
Can anyone lend a hand?
i would like the second and third drives to show up on my OSX desktop as Windows and OSX saved data.
Any help would be incredible!
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Open the Disk Utility in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and try setting up the drives there.
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Thanks for the reply.
It is an Intel processor. 2.16 Core 2 Duo.
I believe it originally came with Tiger pre-installed - it was purchased around early to mid 2007. However, it was then used by my son who went to a boarding school where they installed 10.5 I believe. And they "locked it down" with parental controls etc. Perhaps that is part of the issue.
I had logged into admin and was doing an OS Update (dont recall exact function). It downloaded bunch of stuff and then asked for reboot. On reboot it got stuck on the flashing folder.
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For Mac Computers
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Mac OS Version 10.4.8
Copyright 2007.
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