Installing Oracle BPM suite, when SOA and BAM domain are already installed

Hi Gurus
I have installed already Oracle SOA domain now I have to install Oracle BPM suite, How to install it with no effect on already installaton.
Please guide,
Aamir

Hi Aamir,
Shutdown the database all the servers. Start the configuration wizard again(SOAORACLE_HOME/common/bin/config.sh) and select BPM and finish it. (SOA and BPM share the same schemas)
Start the servers. Now you can see that BPM is configured with your soa server.
To check whether everything is fine, login to AdminConsole , goto Deployments and check whether oracle.bpm.runtime(11.1.1,11.1.1) is shown as "Active"
thanks,
Murugesh

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I wanna know if the scalability of Oracle BPM Suite is plug and play?
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Thank you Dan!
I have a question. I have been trying to download the generic installers (since I want to install on a 64 bit Linux). The thing is I cannot find the RCU generic (there is one for Win and another one for Linux). Any idea where can this be downloaded?
On a different topic, here I am sharing the BPM 11.1.1.4 Installer guide that has been released recently:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/soasuite/overview/quickstartguidesoasuite11gr1ps3-313245.pdf
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http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/soasuite/overview/index.html
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Dear Friends,
I am very confusing about the "Oracle BPM suite 11g" and "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" and would like your help on explanation as the following :
I have learn that In order to use "Oracle BPM Suite 11g" require to have "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" components to install first. Does it means that :
1) When we buy "Oracle BPM Suite 11g" , we automatically get the "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" components as well ?
2) IS it correct that these " these Oracle SOA Suite 11g components" are included :
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(b) Oracle Business Rules
(c) Oracle BPEL Manager
(d) Oracle Service Bus
(e) Oracle Complex Event Processing
3) Do we have a right to use all of these components listed in (2) ?
4) Then the answers in (3) is "YES", then Is it correct when the customer buy the "Oracle BPM Suite 11g" , they no need to buy "Oracle SOA 11g" any more when they would like to implements that applications based on SOA in the future (without using BPM) ?
5) What IF , the customer would like to start with "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" product and decide to buy only Oracle SOA Suite 11g first ; then later on in the future they would like to implement BPM projects in the future. Can you upgrade "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" to include "Oracle BPM Sutie 11g" and pay only the price different ?
I hope you can help providing the answers to these questions. THank you very much in advance.
Best Regards
Pearapon S.

This is a question best answered by your Oracle reseller or Oracle account manager to give you all the details but I hope this brief answer helps:
- The Unified Business Process Management Suite (BPM Suite 11g) includes: BPM Studio, BPM Composer, BPMN Service Engine and Workflow Extensions, BPM Process Spaces, and BPM Process Analytics.
- BPM Suite 11g requires the licensing of SOA Suite 11g for Oracle Middleware which requires a license for WebLogic Suite.
- You can license SOA Suite 11g now and license BPM Suite 11g later.
Since the products are layered, I don't see this cutting into SOA sales at all. My personal view is that BPM on top of SOA is brilliant since it provides easy integration between human and automated tasks, builds on many of the SOA concepts that are key for a successful BPM implementation (functional, not the Oracle product), and uses the same IDE. The synergies extend past easy use of services; the same business rules and human workflow components are used between both products.

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Definitely using WebLogic, not WAS, not JBoss. Hiring and training support team starting next month. Number of processes to be consolidated/transitioned is less then 40 total. Would you recommend BPM Suite or SOA suite with BPEL PM? Any benefits of one vs the other? We do have some BPM (AL) studio experience.
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Someone from Oracle should step in on this thread when they get a chance to provide greater depth on the BPEL side and the strategic direction on both Oracle BPM and BPEL.
If you have Oracle Suite, you get Oracle Service Bus (OSB) which provides a platform that both BPEL and Oracle BPM can consume from. If you purchase Oracle BPM Suite, you get licenses for both Oracle BPM and BPEL and Oracle BPM processes can consume BPEL processes and vice versa. If you look at Oracle's plans for Oracle BPM 11g coming out sometime in the next 10 months, it appears to be a coexistance strategy leveraging the strengths of both Oracle BPM and BPEL.
My initial reaction was to say that it's not an "either/or" scenario, but the realities of training budgets and skill sets pretty much dictate that you need to focus on one or the other.
I've been doing Oracle BPM work for several years so recognize that although I am not biased, it might appear so in this thread. If you hit the BPEL forum, you'll get feedback from enthusiastic proponents of BPEL. Although I'd like to be, I'm not an expert on BPEL, but here's my take on your question.
Modeling
Oracle BPM was built with one process modeling diagram. It is simple, BPMN based and quick to learn. It supports the roles and the activities I need to build robust processes. As I hinted at in an earlier thread, I use the same diagram to explain the process to executives, managers, IT, SME and business analysts. As a business analyst, the tool is not complicated and can be learned in just a couple hours. As a developer, I use the same modeling diagram, but the tool profile I use is a robust IDE that lets me create the implementation details (objects, logic, integration to services and local testing). If I make a change as a developer, the business analyst can see the change if they look at the same process artifact (typically shared through a source control repository).
BPEL models are very useful for IT. Most times IT does not care or need to know about the roles / swimlanes and the BPEL tool does a nice job of not providing these extra artifacts. When the model has to be shown to non-technical executives, managers, SMEs and business analysts, it is typically shown in BPA. There is a round tripping interface between BPA and BPEL that the folks at Oracle can show you. Others may disagree, but I think there is a bit of a learning curve with BPA for business analysts. It has many different types of diagrams that let you see the different levels of decomposition and abstraction.
Logic
As a developer using Oracle BPM, I use templates and drag and drop to create much of my logic. Once I catalog an object it can be reused across multiple projects either by using the Project Dependency option or by importing the artifacts. I test my logic either by using the method editor debugger or at the process level.
As I create objects used in my logic using Oracle BPM, I can easily inherit attributes provided by introspected components. This means that if you have an ERP system with 138 attributes, you do not have to rebuild this object from scratch in Oracle BPM.
Probably one of BPEL's strengths is that there is not much coding inside the tool. Instead the logic mostly resides in the invoked components.
UI
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If you're a JSP shop, you have the flexibility to instead create your forms using the Oracle BPM tag library instead of the forms editor provided.
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I believe BPEL uses ADF as the forms builder interface. Others on this forum or folks on the BPEL forum are far more knowledgeable on ADF than I am and can give you the comparison between UI builders.
Runtime
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Integration
As I mentioned in the earlier thread, both tools can provide the integration you're looking for. Both Oracle BPM and BPEL can use OSB as the intermediary layer. Oracle BPM can expose and consume component directly if you do not have OSB.
Finally, Oracle BPM was built and architected as one complete solution with modeling, development, runtime, end user worklist and BAM capabilities built into it from the beginning 10 years ago. This integration makes the process modeling tool simple for both IT and business analysts to easily communicate using the same modeling syntax. Similarly, integration across the different parts of the product makes it easy to expose the components directly inside Oracle BPM's catalog (again - since you have SOA Suite, instead use OSB so you enable your SOA architecture). Even the end user interface (the Workspace) that exposes users' inboxes and displays the forms is OOTB and automatcally built for you by the tool.
Hope this helps,
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Oracle BPM Suite 11.1.1.4 (Patchset 3) is available

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Edited by: Daniel Atwood on Jan 21, 2011 6:46 AM

Thank you Dan!
I have a question. I have been trying to download the generic installers (since I want to install on a 64 bit Linux). The thing is I cannot find the RCU generic (there is one for Win and another one for Linux). Any idea where can this be downloaded?
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Hi All,
I am new in Oracle BPM and how some experience learning how to use Oracle BPM. Now when reading about the components products inside "Oracle BPM Suite" in detail , I am some what confuse about :
1) In What situation that we should use "Oracle BPM" rather than "Oracle BPEL PM" ?
2) In What situation that we should use "Oracle BPEL PM" rather than "Oracle BPM" ?
I am confuse about these issue since both of the products come together when we order "Oracle BPM Suite" and both of the products can be used for "HUman Workflow Applications" as well
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Hi
Do Oracle Bpm Suite 11g human tasks have concept of advanced routing of tasks ? For example if we have three groups of people, each of these groups have skills defined. And when task is created then the skills required fulfill the task (could be defined in task metadata) is compared against the three groups. The task is then assigned to the work queue of the most fitting group ?
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Thank you for answering and I will gladly give more details regarding this issue...
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I must disagree a little... Human task's have been separated from process logic and I think it reasonable. I don't think that routing logic belongs to the business process, ofcourse this just semantics but I think it would make separation of concerns more apparent. If the human task - service/manager could determine the routing logic (to whom the task is assigned) based on the parameters it receives, it would then make clear separation of logic: business process would handle the overall control flow and the human task manager would handle the human task flow.
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http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/dev.1111/e10224/bp_workflow.htm
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