Installing OS9.2 on Powerbook 1 Ghz Titanium

I am trying to install OS 9.2.1 on my G4 Titanium Powerbook. It has 512 mb RAM and is a 1 Ghz. It currently has OS 10.4.5 on it. I do not have the original OS 9 install or restore disk.
I have tried installing OS 9.2.1 from a G4 9.2.1 install disk as well as a retail version OS 9.2.1 disk. It starts up fine from the disks, but when I ckick to install the OS, it bombs with both disks.
I also tried not booting up from the disks, but just putting them in and trying to install from there. It tries to go into classic mode, but I do not believe Classic is on the computer because it says it cannot find it. I also do not have the original OS 10 install disk, but do have a copy of the install disk someone burned.
Any ideas? I really need OS 9 on this computer.

Hi, Chuck -
Your model is of the last series of the TiBooks. Unfortunately, although that model can (sometimes) boot to a OS 9.2.1 Install CD, it can use only the model-specific version of OS 9.2.2 that originally came with it.
In order to install a bootable OS 9 on it you will need to acquire a set of the original disks that came with it. You can sometimes get replacement originals from Apple's Customer Service, by phone. The number for that (and other Apple numbers) is on this page -
http://www.apple.com/contact/phone_contacts.html
If you do not need a bootable OS 9 on the machine, and need it only for use as Classic (Classic is a full install of OS 9.1 or later, used within OSX as a program to provide an environment in which to run many OS 9 programs), then you can copy an OS 9 System Folder from another machine.
Some users have also successfully copied the System Folder from an OS 9 Install CD for use as Classic - note, though, that those System Folders have a very limited assortment of control panels and extensions, and some services may not be available.
Also, a non-bootable OS 9 System Folder will not be upgradeable - all OS 9 upgrades (download updaters) run only when the machine is booted to OS 9.

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Don't make it too hard!
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