Installing Palm Desktop & Missing Sync to Mac-Questions

Here are the steps from the Mark/Space webpage for install Palm Desktop (PD) and Missing Sync (MS) to my new Mac (I just converted from PC 4 days ago):
"Note: In order for the Missing Sync to work properly with Palm Desktop, Palm Desktop must be installed PRIOR to installing Missing Sync for Palm OS.
1) Install Palm Desktop 4.2.X
To download Palm Desktop 4.2.X, please go to: http://www.palm.com/us/support/macintosh/mac_desktop.html
2) Install Missing Sync for Palm OS Version 5.1.X or higher
3) If you have previously synchronized with Palm Desktop, your user name will be automatically added to the list of handhelds.
4) Configure the Palm Desktop conduits and make certain that other PIM conduits, such as Mark/Space Conduits for Contacts, Events and Tasks are not enabled."
I have about 40 3rd party apps on my Treo, few of which have a desktop component (conduit): Adobe, Avantgo, DocsToGo, Easy Schedule (United Airlines), eReader, MobiPocket, WorldMate, Vindigo and Zagat. I believe that all except for MobiPocket will work with Mac.
However, what do I do during the first sync, when I want to get my PIMs syncing and PIM data migrating from my Treo 680 the the PD on the Mac? I assume that this might work:
1. When do I delete all Treo 680 3rd party apps, before I sync the PIMs or does it matter as long as I turn off the 3rd party conduits?
2. Only sync the PIMs first until I see that they are working. Do this with conduit set to handheld overwrites desktop.
3. Get Mac-compatible apps from the makers, install them on the Mac and, using MS, sync and install them on my Treo. This entails correctly setting the conduits and following MS's instructions when the process is a little tricky (ie, Vindigo, Avantgo). I don't want to update any of these apps via wireless so I'm hoping that Missing Sync can do the syncing job for all of them.
Zagat isn't on their supported apps list but Zagat does indicate that it works with Mac. I don't know what that means.
Does anyone have any comments. Thanks.

Since Palm Desktop and Missing Sync are not Apple products you'd probably be better off posting your question on the Missing Sync forums:
http://forums.markspace.com/

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    I have been over all the "boards" and everyone is having the same problem syncing Entourage 2008 or even iCal with their Palms.
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    • your option to synchronize a Palm device to Entourage using a conduit was eliminated by Microsoft, so…
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    2. contact Mark/Space to determine if they are willing to independently build an Entourage 2008 Palm conduit
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