Installing Panther without a password

Hi!
I'd like to install Panther again, but I'd like to do it so that I no longer have a 'major password' let's say... Whenever I install something, I have to enter a password, so I was wondering if it's possible to install it without that password somehow. I mean, when I create my account, it just adds my existing password again.
Thanx,
polar
P.S. I thought i just might click the 'Erase & Install' option during installation... Or?

polar:
You can do an erase and install, and set up your computer any way you want, although it is not advisable to set up without a password. Mac OS X security is linked to a password. Being able to install software without a password is a convenience of dubious advantage because then anyone can install on your computer including those who want to install malware, adware, spyware or viruses while you are online.
Good luck.
cornelius

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