Installing SCVMM 2012 r2 in a VM on Hyper-V 2012 and windows failover cluseter

Hi,
I am planning to configure scvmm 2012 r2 that will be managing 30 hyper-v host servers, please guide me will it be ok if i install and configure both scvmm 2012 r2 and sql server 2012 on same VM running on Hyper-V Failover Cluster ?
Regards,
Afzal
[email protected]

Hi,
Like most of the time, there is a lot of possible topology to achieve your design.
Installing VMM and the database in a virtual machine on the same cluster that it manage is a supported scenario.
The first question you have to ask is : What is the availability level i need for my VMM infrastructure ?If
you shutdown the SCVMM instance for patching, you are not able to deploy new VM from template, and not able to create and manage Virtual Networks. It don't affect existing VM or Virtual Networks. Does this break your SLA ?
Most of the time, VMM don't need a guest cluster (unless you are a hosting provider with provisionning portal
available 24/24 7/7).
The main advice i will give you is :
Keep it simple as possible !
Don't build complex infrastructure if you don't need to achieve a very hight level of availability.
Availability, complexity and management cost have a exponential relation.
For large deployment, you can use a dedicated Hyper-V cluster to deploy System Center and infrastructures services (SCVMM, SCOM etc...) But there is nothing wrong in deploying VMM in the same cluster as the VM it manage. The design you have to achieve should
be thinking in terms of availability and serviceability.
I don't think that 30 Hyper-V hosts need a dedicated SQL Guest Cluster.
If you install VMM on one VM and SQL on another, you will not achieve more performances, but your VMM instance
will be less "portable".
Cheer.
Cedric.

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