Integrate the Org structure and employees SAP HR system to CRM via ALE

Hi All,
We want to integrate the organization structure and employees from mySAP HR system to mySAP CRM system. We are also aware that the same can be achieved through ALE Interface between both these systems.
In addition to the HR Organization Structure from HR system, can we also bring over the Sales Organization Structure from R/3 using transaction CRMC_R3_ORG_GENERATE?
1) Can someone , please let us the possible challenges which might occur when we download HR Org structure from SAP HR to SAP CRM.?
2) What is the implication of maintaining an HR org structure and CRM Sales Org structure within the SAP CRM 52 system?
3) Any _precautions) should we take before doing the download via ALE??
Please get back, suitable points will be awarded.
Regards
Ritvij

Hi Ritvij,
Couple of things that spring to mind are:
1) When you do the initial data load (PFAL) try to ensure that no one is amending the Org structure as Objects can be locked and therefore not transferred. (on one of our test loads the top level was locked and therfore all subsequent levels were just transfered and we didn't have a top level)
2) Keep the 'forms of address' in CRM the same as the R/3 ones
3) Keep the same Employee and Org Unit IDs but prefix with (for exmaple) EM and OU in CRM. (Through the HR integration config in CRM). This may also (apparantley) aid you if set up something like an Employee interaction centre in the future.
I will update when other stuff springs to mind.
Cheers
Gaz

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