Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550@2.83GHz slower than Core 2 Duo E4600@2.40GHz

Hi all,
I have got 2 Intel Core 2 systems with the following components:
System 1:
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
GPU: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9800 GT (rev a2)
RAM: 4 GB
Disk: ATA Hitachi HDP72505
Mainboard: ASUS P5QL-EM
System 2:
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz
GPU: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
RAM: 4 GB
Disk: ATA Samsung HD252HJ
Mainboard: Intel So. 775
On both Arch64 is running with almost the same software installed. Installation and Configuration of both were without any problems.
The problem is that System 1 with the Quad CPU obviously is slower than System 2 with the Duo CPU. For instance converting a video from H.264 to XVID4 with Avidemux takes about 70 minutes on System 1 while it takes about 50 minutes on System 2.
CPU load on System 2 is much higher than on System 1. Load during conversion on System 2 is at approx. 75% and on System 1 at approx. 50%.
So it seems like System 1 is somehow throttled.
I did some benchmarking with the benchmarking suite of linuxuser.de with both systems and hardware seems to be fine on both. I.e. all components of System 1 are more powerfull than System 2, if I do not misinterpret the logs.
Here are the logs (on archlinux.de):
System 1 / Quad CPU > http://forum.archlinux.de/?page=GetAttachment;file=1183
System 2 / Duo CPU > http://forum.archlinux.de/?page=GetAttachment;file=1184
I would appreciate any ideas of getting a grip on the problem.
Thanks & Regards
hcjl

Here's a discussion about multithreading on avidemux's site http://avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?t … ithreading
Note what they said about multithreading performance varying with different codecs. Maybe the ones you're using are wasting the resources of the quad core in attempting to run four threads. You might experiment with conversions that make use of different codecs to see if the same CPU load underuse happens with the quad core.

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Why is InDesign CC significantly SLOWER than CS6?

InDesign CC is noticeably SLOWER in almost every aspect and functionality than is the latest version of InDesign CS6 on my computer (OSX 10.9.4, 2.66 GHz Intel Core i5, 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, 27 inch iMac). I have stopped using Indesign CC and now only use CS6 to create and adjust documents.
Can any staff or special users in this forum detail ADOBE's understanding or response to complaints of this nature?
This situation does not bode well for me, given the coerced direction Adobe is taking users of its creative suite (towards cloud based subscription systems).

I rebuilt all my preferences and that led to some kind of discovery. Starting InDesign CC everthing works ok (though the drawing tools are slightly slower than in CS6, creating a new page for example is much faster). All the following things mainly have an impact on drawing tools (pen tool, rectangle tool etc. placing multiple images is also affected but maybe because an image frame has to be drawn). After activating the application frame things start to slow down a bit. If I open the collapsed panels on right side things get slowed down again and the biggest hit on performance is evident when the information panel is open.
I wanted to record a screen-capture again but this is so slow that it does not represent the bug accurately. And I guess this has something to do with the user interface because all is linked to interface actions (application frame, opening/collapsing panels, showing the information panel)
Once again my system specs (when experiencing the issues half of my RAM was still free with Safari, Mail and InDesign CS6 and CC open for comparison):
InDesign CC (German)
Mac OS 10.8.4
MacBook Pro 17inch
8 GB RAM
2.66 GHz Intel Core i7
500 GB HD (200 GB free)

I just restored my 24 inch imac and it seems to be running MUCH slower than before. Any Ideas why? thanks in advance for your help!

I have erased and restored my 24 inch Intel iMac. I have upgraded to the last version of X os. My system is running WAY slower than it was before. Even opening windows seems to lag and the spinning wheel come up for everything. Every task is slow, even typing this! lol
Here are my specs:
Model Name:          iMac
Model Identifier:          iMac8,1
Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:          2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors:          1
Total Number Of Cores:          2
L2 Cache:          6 MB
Memory:          4 GB
Bus Speed:          1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system):          1.30f1
Any ideas would be helpful. Is this a hardware issue?
Thanks!

Matt:
Thanks for the update. It is good to know that the maintenance procedures helped. Regular maintenance and a good backup are key to computer security. Gulliver's article has a suggested schedule. Dr. Smoke's FAQ on Backup and Recovery has excellent information and advice. I part company with him on his insistence on Retrospect, which I have found to be difficult to use. SuperDuper has been shown the best backup software in these tests.
If you usually leave your computer on or asleep, it is good practice to shut down and start up in Safe Mode occausionally. I do it about once weekly.
Good luck.
cornelius
Message was edited by: cornelius

Anyone else? CS4 running much slower than CS3?

I just upgraded to CS4 from CS3. All of the applications are running much, much slower than CS3, particularly InDesign. My computer is literally fresh out of the box; specs below. Software and patches up to date. Thinking of uninstalling CS4 and reverting back to CS3. Any suggestions/feedback?
MacBook Pro 15"
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
4GB memory
320GB 5400-rpm hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics processor with 256MB
1440 by 900 pixels
Snow Leopard OX
Purchased CS4 Master Collection. Other software installed includes iLife, iWork, Office for Mac.

I'm not using In Design yet, but for Photoshop and Acrobat my sense is that they are fast or faster than CS3, and Snow Leopard has reduced the launch time for all my apps compared with Leopard.
Yes there are issues with running Adobe apps with Snow Leopard, but some of them are the same issues when running CS3 apps with Leopard--and in any event, these are, I believe, all crashing bugs, not things that slow down responsiveness. I personally have had only a few problems with Design Std CS4 apps + Snow Leopard.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550@2.83GHz slower than Core 2 Duo E4600@2.40GHz

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