Inter Plant Operation
Dear Sir,
We have following scenario :
a) We have 2 plant , Plant-A and Plant-B which are located at differnt cities .
We have created Sale Order for a Customer Order in Plant-A and accordingly created BOM and Routing and after MRP run Production started in Plant-A . There are few components where some of the operations (against a Production Order) need to be carried-out in Plant-B .
We need to know the efficient procedure to be followed in SAP , so that Material can be sent out to Plant-B and Receive Back after the Operation is performed in Plant-B .
We do not want to follow a traditional Sub-Contracting Procedure , which require making a Purchase Order in the favour of Plant-B as it will increase the work un-necessarily .
We request you to kindly help & guide us pl .
Rgds
Sonia agarwal
Hi,
I suggest you to use the feature of External Processing in the routing. Creat the operation in the routing with the control " External Processing". and maintain the external processing information against the operation in detailed screen like PIR / Outline Agreement / Item no / pur Org .
Prereuisites :
In order type dept parameters maintain the Pur Reqt : 3 .
Create PIR
Create utline Agreement / Contract
Hope this will help you.
regards
radhak mk
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Have you tried the Inter-plant planning in REM If yes then what the error are you getting?
No i haven't tried this scenario will try and update mean while i want some inputs from any one who might have already experienced this scenario.
It s possible a stock transfer of the production plant may also be executed to the plant of the sales order also.
Could you please elaborate more what do you mean by this statement?
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> I have my sequence as follows
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In case of a Plant shifted from one state to another state, what should we do in SAP?
a. Shoud we change the address of the same plant & start using the same plant?
b. Should we create a new plant, upload/extend all the master data & use the new plant for all activities.
will there be any legal complication if we simply change the address & using the inventory without showing any transfer (stock out) from the old plant.
pls. advise,
Regards,Hi,
By simply changing the name of plant to the new plant is not the right solution. The system should reflect the process how it happened actually.
There will be many implications and problem from audit, finance, taxation, legal, reporting and process point of view. Taxation will be main thrust area as the state is different.
You cannot simply do away just for the huge effort involved.
When ever this scenario is there it is like a new Roll-out.
You need to plan the following:
1) Data extraction activities
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5) Authorisation.
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1) can't we use the same materials/ stock without showing any transfer in sap?
2) is there any legal implication or problem in sap auditing if don't create a new plant & go ahead with the same plant with doing changes in address, some tax data?
You need to show this as stock transfer from old plant to new plant. As it the matter of 2 differnt states,Govt Authorities can look for excise related data. If your plant in both the state or one of the state is covered under ESZ or tax holiday zone from that point of view also it is important. If the import process is there than also -as duty draw back issues/laws will be there. These all things will be already in the preview of your company legal battery.
I donot thing you need to go in that legal expects in so deep. And also it is not a straight cut answer on all legal implication, what I have mentioned is just a few. It has many dependies on state law, current prevailing law, type of goods manufactured, ESZ zones, import , etc, etc.
You plan the migration activities craftly and carefully.
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