Interactive pdf - Buttons within multi-state objects

Hi,
I seem to have a problem. I dont know if it is even possible, but I made a button that goes to a status of 2 multi-state objects. Within one of those multi-state objects is a button that closes that multi-state object. So now I am wondering if it is possible to make that same button close the other multi-state object aswell?
Marc

Yes, you can attach multiple actions to one button, but there´s a bigger problem... based on your title I guess you are trying to use multistate objects with interactive PDF and that´s not possible. MSOs are supported only with SWF exports and with Adobe DPS / Folios....

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