Interesting comparison - Premiere Elements / iMovie

I am trying to diagnose the issues I am running into with Premiere Elements - I can't work for 4 minutes before it crashes, makes it difficult to accomplish anything!
As I look at several options, including another system upgrade, I am thinking it might be an option to stay with PrE (8.0) on Windows OR get a Mac for video edition/photo editing.
If anyone has experience in this area, how does PrE compare to iMovie?  On a scale of 1-10, 1 being iMovie - 10 being Final Cut Pro (or, perhaps Premiere Pro ... don't know how they compare).  Where does PrE fall - more capabilities options than iMovie, less than Final Cut/Pr Pro ... maybe a 4, 5, 6?
Interesting question or odd question!  Just want to have a good option for doing some amateur video editing (video from Canon 7D & Canon HF S100, still photos and various audio).
Thanks for your thoughts, feedback, recommendations!  Although this is a Windows centered blog with Premiere Elements for Windows, I knew it would be a knowledgable group!

Steve,
You have hit one big "nail" squarely on the head:
It also falls victim to Windows chief liability -- that Microsoft has to design and maintain an operating system that runs on every possible configuration of hardware. And, well, you know how that can go. Although Windows 7 seems to have addressed most of those issues.
Because of the myriad possibilities for configuration, both hardware and software, a user has to be more pro-active with their system.
Over the years, working on many thousands of problems with Adobe NLE's, I still see these issues break down in this order:
System
Assets
Project settings
System issues far outweigh the other two, and should be addressed by most users first. Assets come in second, and if Project settings match Assets, it falls way at the bottom. Now, there are also cases of OE (Operator Error) and real Bugs. Though some versions of the Adobe NLE's do have some real Bugs, we're probably talking less than 1% of all issues. While I have not done a spreadsheet, my "seat-o-the-pants" experience substantiates the above list as where one should start and the order they should work on things for troubleshooting.
Mac's do have one big advantage - far more commonality in hardware and software. Of course, it now seems that the new Snow Leopard OS does not play nice with many things Adobe, so even the vaunted Mac's are not fail-safe. To me, considering the almost complete control that Apple has over all things Mac, there should NEVER be any incompatibility issues, given that Adobe offers so many programs for both platforms. How Apple can issue an OS upgrade that ignores so many Adobe programs is beyond my comprehension.
Just some thoughts,
Hunt

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    1. ...and most anoying one: scrolling in the Timeline left and right on (Apple Magic-)Mouse works now just the other way round than in APE 11 (...which was quite intuitive to me... :-( ) ...I've found some settings for the keyboard, but nothing regarding mouse wheel scroll direction. BTW: is it possible to use up and down scrolling to pan up and down the video-tracks instead of moving back and forth in the timeline (...again).
    2. Most interesting new feature of V 12 is the motion tracking (at least for me):
    a) I can only use motion tracking with those childish graphics and animation. I just want to use it for simple text as the help message suggests should be possible as well. But the button to place texts is disabled when motion tracking is enabled... is there another way to enable motion tracking on a existing text-and/or-graphic-overlay?
    b) I have a lot of videos filmed with a GoPro in upside-down-mode, meaning that I have to rotate the videos by 180 degree in Premiere. Motion tracking appears not to be able to handle that. While objects can be tracked (which is also not too easy as i had to find out) the motion track seems to be way more suitable for the non-rotated video... I've found no way, yet to rotate the track as well (without roating the graphic as well).
    So... unfortunately Version 12 is a bit frustrating up to now... Thanks for your help!
    Losty

    Sorry for your challenges, Losty. I'm having great success with version 12!
    Of course, Mac Retina displays are known for causing problems like the ones you're experiencing. I'd hoped Mac would have fixed this by now.
    You can certainly use your own text, graphic or even a picture-in-picture with Motion Tracking. I demonstrate how in tutorial on the left side of this page. http://Muvipix.com/pe12.php
    As for 2b, I have no idea why you're shooting your videos upside-down, but you certainly are adding an unnecessary level of complexity to your post production. I'd recommend that you first right-side-up your videos in Premiere Elements and then output the finished video using Publish & Share/Computer/AVCHD with the M2T 1920x1080 preset to output the fixed video. You can then use your righted videos in a new project and do all the Motion Tracking you want with it.

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