Interesting in undoing tiger on older Mac

I now realize that my 1.6gig Mac g5 that upgraded to Tiger a few years ago might run better if I undo the upgrade from Panther. I performed the upgrade myself. I have Panther disks, tiger disks. What would I need to do?

The best way would be an archive and install - but why it should run better on an older and slower system is not readily understood.
How to Archive & Install:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120
and this also:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2196?viewlocale=en_US
This document explains how to correctly reinstall a prior version of Mac OS X in the event that other troubleshooting does not resolve an issue:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25404
BUT: Don't install older versions of Mac OS than what came with your computer:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2186?viewlocale=en_US

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Tiger on older Macs...

Mac OS X (10.2.x)
I want to upgrade four computers to Tiger. The first one, I know, is a long shot, but...
1) iMac rev. A/233Mhz. Has original 4GB HD; I'd replace this with at least a 60MB drive, before the attempt. If I could find a cheap Sonnett Harmoni upgrade card w/firewire, I'd put that in, too, but haven't found one. Now running OS 8.6.
2) ibook G3/500mhz/dual USB, now running OS 10.2.8. It's a bit sluggish sometimes, but okay.
3) My daughter's 800mhz eMac, now running either 10.2.8 or 10.3x, can't remember.
4) a 1.25GB eMac USB 2.0., now running OS 10.3.9.
Can I do them all? If not, which?
Thanks!
Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Hello,
Apparently, that version is now available.
It would seem that it is supported now then
For the record, the newer link you furnished to this
new version includes some "known problems" that might
apply to the old revision A iMac, including loss of
Firewire support in an add on card.
Yes, that is quite possible.
A lot of times OS X refuses to work with add-on cards. But, it's not particularly surprising since Apple didn't like the 3rd-party add-ons that were being developed to plug into the iMac.
They never intended that to be a usable expansion slot for the user to mess with. So, they intentionally dropped it from the next models to prevent it's continued use.
That's assuming we're talking about the same slot. It was an internal slot (I think it was call Mezzanine or something like that). Some 3rd-party companies came up with creative expansions for it that Apple refused to support.
Of course, I'm working from an old memory there. So, my details could be a bit off.
It still seems an
unsuitable candidate for Tiger, supported or not.
It would be up to the user to decide if it's worthwhile.
I'd probably do it if I got the upgrades cheap enough. It would be cheaper to do that, than to get another version of OS X just for that machine (since he could use the Family pack as mentioned before).
It just depends on what you want out of the machine, and how much you have to spend on parts.
Assuming he gets the Family Pack of OS X (which is going to be cheaper when he's talking about updating 2 machines or more), then the OS is basically going to be free already for that machine.
So, then we're talking about RAM and a Hard Drive.
The Hard Drive can come for free out of any old PC (that's how I upgraded mine).
And, the memory can be had for as little as $34 for 256 MB of RAM.
Price from:
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?model=61&type=Memory&TI=%23TimeForm at%28Now%28%29%2C&shoupgrds=ShowUpgrades
So, if it was me, and I was buying the Family Pack of OS X Tiger (Which makes sense even if you aren't upgrading the iMac), then I'd throw the $34 at the iMac to see if I was satisfied with it's performance on Tiger.
But, that's just me.
Given that the Family Pack would already be there, the additional cost to install Tiger on the iMac would be minimal. $34 is lunch the price of lunch for 2. So, not a huge investment.
And, hard drives are nearly free when you get second-hand ones that aren't huge.
That's just what I'd try in this situation. $34 isn't a huge gamble for an experiment. If he likes it, he's got a cheap machine that's good for the kids to do their homework.

HT1338 Older Mac running Tiger 10.4.11. and Flash no longer works. Upgraded version installed and left me without any Flash support at all??

I recently attempted to upload the latest FLASH PLAYER. My older Mac (G4) works wonderfully as a desktop computer, so I NEED a flash player
badly, but now it says that Adobe no longer supports older Mac Power PCs! What's up with that?? Some of the best and most desirable computers
ever made are of no interest to Adobe?
I there a work-around to eliminate the need for Adobe's Flash Player?? Another Flash version......can you say Macromedia? HELP

You can check here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ to see which version you should install for your Mac and OS. Note that version 10,1,102,64 is the last version available to PPC Mac users*. The latest version,10.3.183.23 or later, is for Intel Macs only running Tiger or Leopard, as Adobe no longer support the PPC platform. Version 11.4.402.265 is for Snow Leopard onwards.
* Unhelpfully, if you want the last version for PPC Macs, you need to go here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html and scroll down to 'Archived Versions/Older Archives'. Flash Player 10.1.102.64 is the one you download. More information here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/838/cpsid_83808.html
You should first uninstall any previous version of Flash Player, using the uninstaller from here (make sure you use the correct one!):
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/909/cpsid_90906.html
and also that you follow the instructions closely, such as closing ALL applications first before installing. You must also carry out a permission repair after installing anything from Adobe.
(If you are running a PPC Mac with Flash Player 10.1.102.64 and are having problems with watching videos on FaceBook or other sites, contributor Texas Mac Man suggests the following solution which fools the site into thinking that you are running the latest version:)
Download this http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip to your desktop, unzip it, and replace the current Flash Player plug-in which is in your main/Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder, (not the user Library). Save the old one just in case this one doesn't work.
But possibly that only works with Leopard.

How do I sync an older mac (10.5.8) with a newer mac (10.7.4)?

I have an older mac mini (OS 10.5.8), and a macbook with OS 10.7.4 on it.
With mobile.me gone, how can I sync these two?
The only things I'm really interested in is iCal and Address Book. They are both on the same wifi, if that helps.
Thanks in advance, Mark

Hi, might try the 10.5 reset sync instructions here...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1627?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Or the last post here...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3923310?start=0&tstart=0

Searching Archive for Older Mac 10.4 (non Intel) Computer Lost Flash Player

Hello Forum Users!
I'm sorry to bother you, but checked recent posts and knowledge base and cannot seem to find my problem listed.
Problem starts and ends with older Mac operating system (10.4.11, Yes, I am still using Tiger and my G4 is said not to be acceptable to Leopard so its time for new computer..but until then)....
I have only a 60 GB HD, and it was getting "full" so suggestion I received and someone helped me do it, was to eliminate all old "downloads" I was saving.
Fine....except that while I was cleaning up the older programs I "don't use" to get more room on the Hard Drive (I had less than 10 GB free and Apples don't like that on their Journal Drives), I accidentally "erased" (then threw out as trash to get room) the Adobe Flash Player. Not a problem! But now of course I remember that is "why" keep normally all "downloads" as files in case I do that....so no older download to use as my own archive.
Ok, not a problem! Go to Adobe and download a new Flash Player (Of course I can't use 10.3 and all the others you keep referring to, as I don't have an "Intel" chip operating computer, so 10.4 is supported by newer Flash Players but only those using an Intel chip which my computer doesn't have. (Lap top else I'd try all types of modificactions to work around the problem).
Sorry too many details, but rather let you know now than questions back and forth.
The final irony is that I know of Adobe's Archives and went "back in time" downloading and testing out various Flash Players (sorry, didn't pay attention so I did not ever have marked down which version of older Adobe worked with my 10.4.11).
So I tried all the 10.2's 10.0's 9's (even the developer ones) I hit the 8's and realized that maybe I'm not doing something right as I do think if you are using 10.3 now, that 8 versions should have been usable according to the June 2010 system requirement lists.
For downloading I select Mac "other" as my operating system since the current specificaitons for downloading list 10.4 to 10.6 as "Intel" based.
Did I leave anything out?
I really need Adobe Flash Player as most of the web sites are just refusing to display anything but words for me, so just boring now on web without access to all the content that Flash Player provides. (no more funny You tube videos either of course!).
Can anyone help me with my Adobe problem?
Thanks!

To both of my helpers.....Success! (Skip to end if you don't want to read the details).
Sorry for the delay in responding to all of your suggestions!
eidnolb: Here is what I found on the page with red "f" this time. But using Safari, the whole top of the page says "Flash" meaning that the red "F" is part of a Flash item that is not loading in Safari, but does load in my other Browser, Sea Monkey.
Using Safari I right clicked (was on wrong page sorry) and got the "ClicktoFlash---Settings" settings
I do not have regular "settings" anymore on my list just: Load Flash/Load all on this page/add www.Adobe.com to whitelist/ClicktoFlash Settings.
And in the Click to Flash Settings there is no box to uncheck for hardware acceleration. Only things like Options/sIFR Text Updates Uninstall (of course) version 1.5.5 if that matters).
I set up my account in Adobe using Sea Monkey which I do when Safari is fully being used for other purposes that day, so that explains why I got confused sometimes, the Flash Content in Sea Monkey "works" but the same page loaded in Safari does not work. I do have Firefox, but that has too many saved pages that have not been gone over to "unsave" them when I'm done either printing the contnet or saving the content or bookmarking it, so that is quite unusuable right now so I don't know if any of the flash is working or not on Firefox (and I don't have Chrome loaded in yet....maybe I read it was Leopard only? I forget why it is not
another choice for me).
Willener pat's (finally used a mirror!) suggestion I try the FP uninstaller again, I made sure it was done using Safari (Sea Monkey does not like it)....and despite it appearing for the higher levels of Mac OSX I tried it....
Its getting complicated. I can read the instructions how to do it in Sea Monkey, but Sea Monkey does not like the file (does not know what to do with it and offers my entire "Mac" database of applications i.e. word, etc to use it (very bad). Safari can use the file but I have to click on it without the accompanying instrtuctions to help me as they are not visible or printable anymore from within Safari without Flash. So I'm using the printed instrucitons from Sea Monkey to follow and Safari to do the downloading!
I'll work this out yet!
eidnolb: I visited http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html after uninstall as you and pat say to do.
But the message reads:
"The following displays the type of Flash Player version that this browser is running, and its capabilities. Usually only developers creating content for Flash Player require this information: "
But Guess What? The box is a "FLASH" item!! So I can't see what version is in there! (Catch-22 they call that!).
My company's Flash pages are showing up on both Safari and Sea Monkey, they pause then load even though I've not set them for "permissions" or "whitelist" on the ClicktoFlash" because the content is created by various people and they have bad web page habits so especially I do not load Flash immediately at my company's web pages, as it can hang or cause scripts to keep working so I have to stop it. That is why the person I deal with got me "ClicktoFlash" as just because I know how to create a web page, doesn't mean all the other ones I deal with know how!
I'm thinking at this point, should I try installing back in the version again? I guess no harm can come from that so I went back to eidnolb's version in original message and tried to load it in again.
Result is: nothing!
I clicked on your address in Sea Monkey and copied to safari and both don't work. "Page Not Found" Error.
This is what I clicked on to get the Flash installer 10.1.102.64 before! I know it worked then, why not now? So I'll use the copy I've downloaded before but why is the link not working now?
eidnolb: June 15, 2011 10:53 am
Flash installer 10.1.102.64 [http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp 10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0archive.zip] Open the archive to reveal yet more archives and multiple files. Select: flashplayer101r102_64_ubmac.dmg
By the way....reading everything that came with the installer program (it appears for developers only as archived version), it says to "restart" system after uninstall. Maybe that is what I did not do, but I've closed and restarted my computer each time I leave so I know its been "done" in middle of writing your forum replies, I just save it elsewhere and come back to continue writing!
So closing and restarting everything had no effect. On the Adobe Find Flash Player Version page, I still can't "see" the box with version of Flash Player I'm currently running, as its a Flash box that does not activate. The other Adobe page with "red" F still does not show the me "red" F just a huge "Flash" box that I can't open.
So here goes with installing again from the saved version of download (by the by I'm now down to 9.46 GB free since I've opened and downloaded so many files so many times. Just don't know which to delete as nothing has worked yet!
Now it works! I think!
I got the "Find Flash Player Version" page and I can "see" the result
I'm using Player Version: MAC 10,1,53,64
Debug Player: No
Opening system Mac OS 10.4.11
Video Capable Yes
Audio Capable Yes
Local File I/O Enabled: Yes
So I guess that is it!
It works !
I could have just said this part alone, but wanted both of you to see what steps I took to get it working again! (Might be helpful to anyone else stupid enough to try to create more room by deleting any large files with unidentified names).
Which answer fits the bill for "correct" answer? I"ll click on and award points however you both see fit (10 to best answer 5 to possible answers).
I went to check on the one you (eidnolb) answered about Google Maps (I have a iPad now and always use it for my portable use of Google Maps so didn't notice anything like he mentioned, so I just went in to give a check and Safari and Google Maps are all working fine with street views (the orange man---does anyone have a name for him? Have a contest!). It all works so thanks again.
Best regards to everyone!

What specific technology are older macs bluetooth missing that will not allow handoff to work?

What specific technology are older macs bluetooth (that is built in) missing that will not allow handoff to work? Will apple allow people to buy third party bluetooth 4.0 to allow it to work?

Well, with a PPC Mac you can upgrade as far as Firefox 3.6.19 if you upgrade from Tiger OSX 10.3.9 to Leopard OSX 10.5, but Firefox doesn't support PPC architecture in the latest Firefox 4, 5, and 6.0 versions.
For older Macs that aren't supported in Firefox 4.0 & 5.0, try TenFourFox for PowerPC's running Mac 10.4.11 & 10.5.8 . <br />
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
But, you still need to carefully investigate if your hardware specs are sufficient for either Firefox 3.6.19 or for 10-4Fox.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/system-requirements/

Older Macs: 10.4 or 10.3?

Need advice: I'm late to the OS X party for various reasons. I have a lot of older macs that I need to upgrade, like a few 400MHz G3s, a 400MHz G4, and a couple of 500MHz G4 dual Ps. WHich OS should I go with? I have heard 10.3 may run a little better on the older stuff. Is this true? Or should I just go for the latest and greatest? Each machine does have differing resource sizes for disk and memory.
Thank you for your time and expertise.

Jay:
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Some of the older G3s have special needs. Anything after, and including, the Blue and White will run the latest (Tiger). Some of the earlier G3s need to have OS X installed on the first 8 GB of the HDD, and need the utility XPostFacto to be able to run OS X.
What each computer will support will depend on each of the computers. But even the older G3s should support Panther, with a little help.
Sorry I can't respond more specifically, but maybe you can post more details about each computer, e.g. model, HDD size, whether they have CD-ROM, DVD-ROM etc., the amount of RAM, USB/Firewire and so on. You may want to deal with each computer separately to make it simpler.
Here are the basic requirements for Panther and Tiger:
Basic Requirements for Installing Panther
-Macintosh with a PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
-Built-in USB
-At least 128MB of physical RAM
-Built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
For Tiger
Make sure your hardware can run Mac OS X Version 10.4 Tiger
Mac OS X Version 10.4 requires a Macintosh with:
* PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
* Built-in FireWire
* At least 256MB of physical RAM
* A built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
* At least 3.0 GB of available space on your hard drive; 4GB of disk space if you install XCode 2 developer tools
* DVD drive for installation (get CD media for $9.95)
Good luck.
cornelius

HT1338 new to macs - have 10.4.11 and an iMac 2 - older Mac by today's standards - is there a version of Itunes that would work on the OS?

new to macs - have 10.4.11 and an iMac 2 - older Mac by today's standards - is there a version of Itunes that would work on the OS?

I'm not certain what you mean by iMac 2. Is that the lamp shade model -- round half ball with stem & lcd display?
TenFourFox -- It's a port of the latest FireFox to run on older hardware and software.
"World's most advanced web browser. Finely tuned for the Power PC."
-- works for me on 10.4. Supports 10.5
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
alternative download site:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37761/tenfourfox
Turn on pipelining. This will allow Firefox to make simaltaneous requests to the server. Chrome has pipeling turned on. Some sites could fail to load with pipeling set on. The site will be old. See "Increase pipelining" in:
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/firefox-optimization-tips/
OmniWeb uses the lastest Safari framework. The open source WebKit. Other browsers like Safari and iCab use the OS version of WebKit. The OmniWeb downloaded dmg includes it's own copy of the latest WebKit.
http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/
Safari 4.1.3 for Tiger
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1069

Help with new airport express on older MAC

How can I use a new airport express on an older MAC? I am not able to install the new airport utility software because the MAC software is too old. Can I install the airport software on my newer PC. Will the older MAC be able to fist it and use it with AirPlay?

You can run Airport Express on v10.4 or later.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB321LL/A/AirPort-Express-AirTunes?mco=MTY3ODQ 5OTY
I use mine with two older laptops, one running Tiger, one running Leopard, as well as newer Macs running Snow Leopard.
Try installing the software from the CD. If there's a problem, you should see a dialog box.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/AirPort_Express_Setup_Guide.pdf

Leopard on older mac?

Does anyone have experience with installing Leopard on an older mac? I have a powermac with dual G4 processors running at 867 Mhz - the bare minimum Mhz-wise of what Apple recommends for Leopard.
I want to know if it's worthwhile to upgrade this machine to Leopard, or if the machine will crawl performance-wise after the upgrade.

I decided to take everyone's advice. I upgraded my powermac and I bought a new macbook.
Since everyone knows Leopard runs well on a new macbook, I'll instead tell you about performance on my PowerMac G4 867 Mhz: Pretty darn good. I figured I'd have to back the change out, but no. Everything I used to do on my mac is just as fast now - if not faster - than on Tiger. Now, some of the new eye candy is pokey, especially compared to my macbook. E.g. there's a noticeable pause when bringing up quickview or one of those spring loaded thingies on the dock (I forget the marketing term for them). But web browsing, iPhoto, mail and other fun things work wonderfully on my new OS. As does e.g. the screen sharing.
All in all - if you have a mac that is as good or better than this, you shouldn't hesitate to upgrade.

Advice for updating my older Mac Pro

I have an older Mac Pro running Leopard and I’m starting to have issues with my system running effectively, so I’m making the leap to Snow Leopard and possibly Lion. I’m looking for advice on the best methodology to make the change, suggestions on the best set up, and pitfalls to avoid.
Current Set Up
Processor: 2 x 2.66 Ghz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 6 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Drive 1: 750 GB internal, with OS 10.5.8. (230 gb used)
Drive 2: 750 GB internal, non bootable backup for Drive 1(225 gb used)
Drive 3: 1TB internal, Aperture Library (906 gb used)
Drive 4: 1TB internal, Aperture Vault (879 gb used)
Drives 5: 1TB external, backup for safe deposit box (912 gbused)
Drives 6,7,8: 250GB external, varying and redundant backup.
The programs I use more often are MS Office, Photoshop CS3 (not quite ready to upgrade, largely because of the pdf presentation removal in subsequent releases), Aperture 2.0, and now iMovie HD 6 (which has an undiagnosed problem and will not function properly).
My current thinking is:
- Ensure back up of Drive 1 on external drives.
- Erase Drive 2
- Install Snow Leopard onto “fresh” Drive 2 as start updrive
- Use migration assistant to transfer user settings to Drive2
- Transfer programs to Drive 2. Can I use MigrationAssistant to transfer CS3, Aperture, and other programs effectively, or should they be reinstalled from disk? What about plugins?
- Leave Drive 1 as is to ensure MSOffice (ver X), CS3 and Aperture functionality. Will these programs run on Snow Leopard? I've seen posts about possible issues with Lion. . .
- Eventually reconfigure backup drives to adequately and effectively utilize available space (my Aperture Library is getting unwieldy and needs reference masters, etc).
As I’m very inexperienced at this, I would appreciate any advice and suggestions.
Thanks!
Steve

SSD Killer-fast Mac Pro
Upgrade RAM to 16GB (4 x 4GB)
Upgrade all the hard drives to 2TB
Upgrade to 10.6.8 and CS5.5
Replace graphic card with ATI 5770
Upgrade the processors with X5355s, which is what many are doing now with theirs.
Forget Lion. Dropped PowerPC and Rosetta code support
Clone your drives.
Keep 40% or more free space on any drive.
Move any non-OS or applications off the boot drive to a data drive.
Move system and apps to SSD
Use SSD(s) for Aperture Library or stripe RAID.
None of the above, sell yours and pick up a 2010 2.8GHz $2100 (people that want or need to run Tiger and PowerPC will likely pay $700 range for MacPro1,1). Upgrade the processor in 2010, with 6-core 3.33GHz $590.
Apple Special Refurbished Mac Pro 2.8GHz Quad
Intel Xeon W3680 3.33 GHz, SLBV2
Intel Xeon UP W3680 3.33 GHz Processor - Hexa-core
W3670 Upgrade photos
At some point, it doesn't make sense to pour money into older system.
But you can, and do it gradually one step at a time.

Media Center - older Mac Mini

I have an older Mac Mini - Late 2005 (NON-Intel, running Tiger) sitting in the closet and I'm looking at alternatives that will allow me to finally sever the cord to paying for high cable when I don't watch most of the channels to begin with.
With the 512 MB, I'm wondering if it will allow me to get by enough to be able to use Hulu, boxee, my Airport and other sources to stream content to my HDTV that I'll connect with a DVI to HMDI cable? I've looked at lots of articles, but they all seem to be using an Intel model
I really don't want to buy an Intel mini, just to do this - although, all the money I save from not paying the cable company... hmmm.
Thoughts, tips, suggestions?

BSteely wrote:
Since you already have the mini, why not try it and answer your own question about whether you are satisfied with the outcome or not?
Generally speaking, I think you will find the G4 mini to be a bit under powered for what you have in mind. Adding more memory won't help much.
Thanks for the response. I had every intention to give it a shot, but wanted to see if anyone else had tried with such a low-powered model just to read about their experiences.
I bought the cable and the wireless keyboard and played around with it yesterday.
I came to the conclusion that I need to look for a bargain and invest in an Intel mini. The streaming was great. I only noticed that there was a buffering issue when I tried to watch a TV series from the 70s; it kept stalling every few seconds. (But) two movies and A Charlie Brown Xmas played fine.
I see great potential, once I obtain the mini, so time to check a few prices in a few places.
In the meantime, I can at least upgrade the current model to Leopard, just for kicks

Networking together with older Macs

I am running Tiger 10.4.3. I have in the past, with earlier versions of OSX, connected to computers in my household running 8.6. I had to do this when I changed over to my new computer, which at the time was using Jaguar. We got a DSL connection, so we decided to network the computers together. I cannot mount the disks from the older computers running 8.6. They show up in the Network, but when you click connect, we get the error message: This file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You cannot connect to it.
Do I have something set up wrong, or has apple made it impossible for a computer running Tiger to connect to a computer running 8.6? If they have made it impossible to do this, will it be possible for me to connect to my children's computers if I upgrade them to 9.1?

Is there a way for them to access my computer
without
having to enter an IP address each time?
This should be possible if you check the "Make
AppleTalk Active" option in Tiger's AppleTalk pane of
the appropriate network port in the Network system
preference. (Probably "Built-in Ethernet" if you use
a wired router.) This should 'broadcast' the Tiger
Mac's network name (set in the Sharing sys pref) to
the older Macs, allowing them to see that name in the
Chooser & connect to it in the traditional way.
We have AppleTalk active in Tiger. We can see the name of the Tiger computer in the chooser on the older computers, but if we try to connect that way, it loses the connection. If we enter the IP address, in the chooser, it works though.
One word of caution about this one way sharing: the
older OS versions don't know enough not to show files
on OS X Macs that they shouldn't. You should make
sure your kids don't access it using an admin account
name to avoid exposing more of the OS X Mac's hard
drive than necessary. Even if they just can access
their own account's home folder (recommended), public
folders, etc., a few normally invisible files will
show up, so make sure they understand they should not
disturb them.
They only have access to the public folder.
Can 9.1 communicate both ways?
Yes, as long as the enable file sharing over TCP/IP
box is checked in its File Sharing control panel.
(This is the checkbox missing in earlier versions.)
I have an old SuperMac S900 that doesn't officially
support anything later than 9.1 either (because it
uses a 680X0 processor). Its network name appears in
Tiger Finder's networked volumes list & I can connect
to its "available shares" without getting the
incompatible AFP version error or any other problems.
It is sometimes slow to show up on the network list
after starting up, & the same may apply for your
children's Macs, but if you give it 5 minutes or so,
they should appear & work just as well.
Well, that is good to know. My children all have power PC's PowerMac 5400 for most of them and one PowerMac 5500. Got them all at school auctions or they wouldn't have their own computers. : - )

How to connect a new 27" LED Cinema Display to an older Mac Mini?

I bought a 27" LED Cinema Display (no Thunderbolt) but don't know how to connect it to my wife's older Mac Mini. I presume the Atlona adaptor is the solution, but I haven't bougt one yet.
robbert keegel

The cord attached to the display splits into a Mini DisplayPort, USB, and a MagSafe connector (for powering a laptop).
There is a separate connector on the back of the display for the AC power cord.
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<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC007LL/A>
"What’s in the Box
LED Cinema Display
AC power cord
Printed documentation"

Toshiba TV with older Mac Mini

Hi,
I was thinking of buying a HD TV by Toshiba that claims it can be connected to a Computer (makes no mention of Mac) using it’s “PC INPUT (15-PIN D-SUB)“ port. I’ve seen others mention using HDMI instead. What port on my older Mac Mini would I connect to? I think the video port is an HD monitor out.
Anyone have any experience with this? I wanted to use the TV as a monitor for the Mini some of the time.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks, and so long for now, TOM

All minis have had some form of DVI up until the most recent model. DVI can provide either an analog or digital signal, and because of the ubiquity of VGA monitors the early minis came with a DVI to VGA adapter. The same DVA connection however can deliver a digital signal if the video hardware in the computer supports it, which the minis always have. Audio is not included in this type of connection however, although some TVs support using a combined HDMI and secondary audio input. Many times one HDMI is specifically grouped with a set of RCA inputs on the back for this purpose.
The big difference in how you connect is that most standard video devices sources have historically used an overscan method of image delivery. The image is actually larger than the screen area you will be presented, so the TV overlaps the outer part beyond the actual viewing area. This is largely an artifact of when CRT TVs had fairly widely varied true display areas, and even broadcast equipment couldn't provide a perfectly consistent image area. Because this practice is still used, most video input methods designed for 'dumb' video source like broadcast, cable, satellite, or set top boxes and players use an overscan method. Some TVs allow you to adjust this for the normal video type inputs, like composite, component, S-video, and HDMI. Computers have basically always used a pixel for pixel image rendering model, so VGA as an almost exclusively computer standard does not use overscan. Thus, when a TV has VGA, that input does not use an overscan method to display the image.

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