Intermittent Problem - Fans come on full

Hello Members,
A while ago I posted a kernel panic on this forum, and got some useful informtion. Thanks.
I have a new system, and what seems to me, a NEW problem.
The fans (somewhere) come one full blast (or something, DVD drives??). In any case the
system makes a very loud noise, which sounds like fans coming on.
The noise seems to be coming from the top of the system, near where the two DVD drives are.
I checked the system, while it was making this noise.
     1. I stopped the video card fan momentarily - not the problem.
      2. Stopped the gray fan at the rear by the cards, not the problem.
      3. Stopped the gray fan near the front of the system, not the problem.
So it is not these three fans causing the noise. My latest issue with this system:
I put the system to sleep over night. At 8am, I hear the fans come on full (or whatever the noise is).
The system was still "asleep". I pressed keys on the keyboard, moved the mouse, etc. The system
would not wake up. I depressed the power button part way, no wake up there either.
Finally I pressed and held the power button down until system shutdown. I restarted the system a few
minutes later. The restart was OK.
I have (counting the system disk) 4 internal SATA drives
2 DVD drives
1 Lacie Quadra d2 running on the PCI ex - USB 3.0
2 G-tech drives running on firewire 800 (for general backup, and one for timemachine)
Processor: 2x2.66 6 Core Intel Xeon
Memory: 24GB, 1333 DDR3 ECC
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 5870.
This is a REPLACEMENT system from Apple! They could not fix a previous system (still under warranty), so they did
provide a new system (thank you Apple). BUT the older replaced system exhibited similar problems!
Any one have any ideas? Yes, I plan to take this system to the apple store, but the issue is so intermittent, that it is unlikely that
the system will make the noise in the store (plus I have to remove peripherals, etc)
Any info will help,
Thank,
Eric
Kernal panic below:
3rd Panic
System was asleep for 12 hours apporx.
at 8am the fans turned on full, but computer remained alseep.
System did not repsond to keyboard input or mouse. Had to
hold power button until system turned off. Restarted system
later and booted in safe mode. 30 Nov 2012
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 64783 sec
Panics Since Last Report:          1
Anonymous UUID:                    780984DB-855E-47E1-BEB5-7AE42F3E5F7A
Fri Nov 30 08:20:43 2012
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff80002c4794): Kernel trap at 0xffffff80002af796, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000000, CR3: 0x0000000000100000, CR4: 0x00000000000206e0
RAX: 0xffffff826f4b2000, RBX: 0xffffff82b05609e0, RCX: 0x0000000000000783, RDX: 0x0000000000003c1d
RSP: 0xffffff82a5dbbd88, RBP: 0xffffff82a5dbbdc0, RSI: 0x0000000000000000, RDI: 0xffffff826f4b2000
R8: 0x0000000000000000, R9: 0xffffff80008bfaa0, R10: 0xffffff829fc9d047, R11: 0xffffff800063dc04
R12: 0xffffff82b056006c, R13: 0xffffff82b0560000, R14: 0x0000000000000003, R15: 0xffffff82b06020b0
RFL: 0x0000000000010213, RIP: 0xffffff80002af796, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
CR2: 0x0000000000000000, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Faulting CPU: 0x2
Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff82a5dbba30 : 0xffffff8000220792
0xffffff82a5dbbab0 : 0xffffff80002c4794
0xffffff82a5dbbc60 : 0xffffff80002da55d
0xffffff82a5dbbc80 : 0xffffff80002af796
0xffffff82a5dbbdc0 : 0xffffff7f808e5711
0xffffff82a5dbbdf0 : 0xffffff800063dd21
0xffffff82a5dbbe50 : 0xffffff7f808e5f1e
0xffffff82a5dbbe80 : 0xffffff7f8092021a
0xffffff82a5dbbec0 : 0xffffff800062fd10
0xffffff82a5dbbf50 : 0xffffff800063019e
0xffffff82a5dbbf70 : 0xffffff800023dbbc
0xffffff82a5dbbfb0 : 0xffffff8000820057
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(5.1)[71AF5A29-1AE2-3812-A0FF-96DD1CC6534D]@0xffffff 7f808c5000->0xffffff7f8091afff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7)[5C23D598-58B2-3204-BC03-BC3C0F00BD32]@0xffffff 7f808a7000
         com.LaCie.driver.PXHCD(1.0.11)[2E552B28-485D-26D4-8985-6423D39CB5D4]@0xffffff7f 8091b000->0xffffff7f80938fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(5.1.0)[71AF5A29-1AE2-3812-A0FF-96DD1CC6534D]@0xffff ff7f808c5000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7)[5C23D598-58B2-3204-BC03-BC3C0F00BD32]@0xffffff 7f808a7000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
11G63b
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.2: Thu Aug 23 16:25:48 PDT 2012; root:xnu-1699.32.7~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: FF3BB088-60A4-349C-92EA-CA649C698CE5
System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-F221BEC8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 9187389994944
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Model: MacPro5,1, BootROM MP51.007F.B03, 12 processors, 6-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 24 GB, SMC 1.39f11
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Hello Linc,
Thanks for the confirmation. I ended up removing the PCI card and uninstalling the driver.
I am now running the drive from the USB 2.0 port on the computer. Lacie never owned up to
the fact that the PCI express card and USB 3.0 are not "safely" functional on Mac Pro with Lion.
I am testing the system, only time will tell.
Thanks again,
Eric

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I have tried the SMC reset as instructed and the fan is running normally. It is a bit of an intermittent problem so I will monitor the performance of the computer over the coming weeks. If it persists, I will take it in to a service centre while it remains under warranty.
I guess the "cure" I had stumbled across by accident was nothing to do with turning the computer upside down, it was because I was unknowingly performing an SMC reset. The reason I turned the computer upside down was to find the serial number on the base of the stand so I could report the fault to Apple. Of course, when I plugged it back in to contact the support line, it worked fine.
Once again, thanks for your help.

Macbook fans come on a lot

Hi everyone. Eversince my macbook came back from the random shutdown problem repair, I think that my fans come on a lot. For example, if I am just watching anything with flash (e.g. youtube, google videos, etc) or watching a DVD, the fans will come on full blast.
Is this normal? Do ya'll also have the fans coming on when doing something slightly intensive?
Thanks.

I have the same problem. Very very annoying. I'm
running 10.4.8, and since this upgrade, my fan ALWAYS
comes on full blast with any movie, video ichat,
flash video, etc.
I'm contemplating switching to a MBP because of this
as well as some poor performance with my MB.
That's the way it's supposed to work. Unfortunately, with the graphics circuit used in the MacBook, it puts a load on the processors causing the fan to ramp up when viewing most video.
I play poker with a 3-D software application that causes my fan to run loud when there are a lot of players present, and video action going on. I may upgrade to a pro too when the CoreDuo 2 models come out. About the only thing I don't like about the MacBook is the weaker graphic performance.
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My iMac G5 Fans run at full speed when using regular everyday applications.

When using just normal everyday applications such as using about 30 min of Safari to surf the web or maybe something else, my fans run at full speed. I have just got a new logic board replacing my old faulty one. How can I fix the fan problem?
Thanks!

Hi again Miriam,
With more news for you and iMacG5 on the fans go crazy. I just got back my computer from the repair center. After more than a week under observation, the technician told me that they just couldn't replicate the problem. They had the computer running non-stop during all this time, not even allowingit to go to sleeo mode and nothing.
The CPU fan never went beyond 2300 rpm (or so) and never went to sleep mode on and off by itself. Furthermore, they ran all possible tests and everything comes back as OK.
Right now I have a movie running on the background, together with a photo processing software open and other smaller processes and the CPU fan is running at 4361 rpm !!! the temp of the CPU is 66.3 Celsius.
Any thoughts??? It's really making me crazy because the computer was neverlike this and now it sounds like a hair dryer. I emphasized with them the fact that this just started after they changed the logic board and as coincidence after Ioaded the security update 2006_04. The technician told me it may be software related. If the computer doesn't go to sleep by itself, then he recommended to reload the operating system.
Any comments appreciated.
Zwirek

Very noisy iMac, fans running at full speed even when performing smal tasks

I have a 2009 21 iMac, recently the computer became very noisy with the fans running at full speed all the time even when checking the email or just using Safari. I don't do anything crazy like 3d renderings so I don't know why the fans wont stop. I recently cleaned it but this didn't seem to solve the problem.
Anyone knows what's the problem and how can I fix it?
Thanks

Hello irisfailsafe
Welcome to Apple Discussions
Reset the SMC > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
+1. Shut down the computer.+
+2. Unplug the computer's power cord.+
+3. Press and hold the power button for 5 seconds.+
+4. Release the power button.+
+5. Attach the computers power cable.+
+6. Press the power button to turn on the computer.+
Dennis

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One of my MACs (G5 2.0DP) can't slow down - the fans runs at full speed all the time (OSX 10.3.9) - hardware test - PMU - disconnect powersupply - exit single user mode - I think I did all that's in the "book" - but the fans are still running at full speed - all the time.
any ideas?

Hello,
I am not sure if you have the same issue, but I might be worth it for you to read the archive:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=561296&start=0&tstart=0
And here is the end of my story:
Regarding my issue with the fan fan full force, yes it was resolved... but not without fighting for it!
Fortunately the machine was still under warranty, and I left it with Apple care during an oversea trip in August. End of August I picked it up suppositely fixed and after a few hours of work I noticed the same symptoms were still there! You can be sure I made it clear to Apple service I was not happy. I left the machine again for a week and 1/2 and picked it up again. They told me they replace the logic board. Again a few hours of work of testing and this time I could repeatidly hang up the machine. Back to Apple, I told them I didn't want to pick it up until they REALLY tested it! This time they replace the logic borad again, the power supply and something else?...
Anyway since then the machine works just like it did before : great, no hardware system related issues.
Unfortunately I cannot tell you for sure what was the problem: logic board? CPUs? power supply?... and I could not get the information from Apple care, especially I would have been interested in the specific procedure they follow to fix my problem... but for some reasons they don't want to share this information...
I hope your machine is still under warranty... other wise you'll have to weigh the pros and cons to have it fixed, especially if they replace the logic board ($900 I believe) or any other main components...
I hope this help,
Good luck,
David
Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Help intermittent problem with logging in

Help i have intermittent problem with logging in, sometimes it just comes up with the desktop without any icons or dock and i have to restart the server so i can log on properly, but it doesn't happen all the time, any ideas would be appreciated???

The clients login window just shakes and won't login. I did find one thing that helps some of my Mac Lab woes.
Some students get a dock that only has 3 icons. These students also will have saving and printing problems when they get this default dock.
I think some of the problems occur when the student gets over quota, some preference files get corrupted.
1. Student will login.
2. Open the student's home folder. Then open Library and Preferences.
3. Find the file com.apple.homesync.plist and delete it.
4. Empty Safari Cache and the user's Trash Can and make sure they are not over quota.
5. Logout and login.
This will fix some problems, but not the problem when students can't login at all.

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