Internal order, cc, wbs

Hello friends
If a department gives me an old account number do I have to look up the new SAP (Internal Order, Cost Center, or Work Breakdown Structure Element) number?
regards,

Hi
Yes, you must look up the new SAP number in order to process the transaction. The crosswalk from old to new account can be found at the link below. Select Cost Object Crosswalk on the right hand bottom corner:
http://www.jhu.edu/hopkinsone/Secure_Private/ProjectAreas/Finance/index.htm
Alternatively, use the on-line crosswalk tool found at:
http://orchid.hosts.jhmi.edu/hopkinsone/xWalk/index.cfm
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I,m working in a Project System implementation project, where all other modules are already in use.As per the existing process, Internal orders are created for asset accounting.Those are of statistical. All the purchase orders & costs are booked referring to the internal orders, the same cost is directly settled to Asset Under Construction or Asset.As the internal orders are created as statistical, there is no seperate settlement process & all the costs are directly settled either in AUC or in Asset as & when they are incurred(posted).
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Hi Kishore Ji,
For your question, simple answer is, you want to continue all AUC under Project Systems. So far, you have considered statistical internal orders, anyway, which is not possible for you to settle directly. So, please take that amount generate uploading document by using same account and using WBS element as debit and internal order as credit and status you release for internal orders.
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Hello Tison.
I guess you have the Project created with a BAPI in your system in background. As far as I have seen I'd try the following in ABAP to create Partners in the Project Definition: BAPI_BUS2001_PARTNER_CREATE_M or the corresponding method ProjectDefinitionPI.PartnerCreateMultiple. This should happen in background when the Project is created also.
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Hi Kishore Ji,
For your question, simple answer is, you want to continue all AUC under Project Systems. So far, you have considered statistical internal orders, anyway, which is not possible for you to settle directly. So, please take that amount generate uploading document by using same account and using WBS element as debit and internal order as credit and status you release for internal orders.
WBS elements you create as statistical without selecting account assignment category.
Your problem will be solved.
Assign points without fail.
ALL THE BEST.

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I want to fetch internal order and WBS Element amount( Local curreny , Group currency and transactional currency).from which table can i Fetch the above values.
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Wbs Vs Internal Order

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I'd like to kow which are the advantages of using WBS vs I.O for tracking the expenses related to dicounts in/off invoices.
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hi Carmine-
Without knowing the business scenario you have in mind ....
From a financial perspective both WBS-elements and internal orders are just cost collectors (in SAP terms: cost object). When the collection is complete, costs are settled to one or more destinations, e.g. fixed asset, P&L account or another cost object.
WBS-elements are part of SAP's Project System module. Internal orders are part of the Controlling or CO module of SAP. When you work with WBS-elements, you have available all kinds of functionality that has to do with project management like structuring a project, planning, assigning project leads etc. With internal orders you don't have all these kind of things ... it is just collecting costs and in the end settle those costs. Pls have look at the info available in the SAP help documentation.
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When it is about real projects ... think about the PS module.
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How do i get the WBS no and INTERNAL ORDER NO
in the same report what is the link between these two tables

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Go to T.Code: FB00 and maintain G/L account items fast entry Layout SAP02 now you will get WBS
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