Internal order flow in controlling

Hi all,
Can please help to know the flow of the internal order
as well as cost center .
i want to know the relation between the tables in controlling, so
If possible please provide me the ppt's , screen shorts, etc.
Thanks and regards
Ravi

Hi,
Please check internal order released or not.
Regards,
Ranjeet

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Internal Order Budget - Availability Control

I have done the budget profile, entered the budget figures, created internal order budget with the required profile. However, when I entered the fi document with this statistical IO, system does not give any message as per the tolerance setting actions. I tried to run the activate availability control again. But the system gives a message that availability control is not activated. Why this is happening ? Where can I see the availability control is activated for this Internal order ?

Hi
1. Check if your order is released
2. Check in budget profile (OKOB) if activation type is "1" and whether you have checked "overall" or not....
3. Hope you have defined tolerance limits against the combination of contr area and budget profile
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Ajay M

BP 613 error message in internal order budget availibility control

I Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control 50% has a react "2 Warning with MAIL to person responsible"
but it get a error message
Item 001 Order 20000001 budget almost exhausted .It should be a warning but get error.
Would someone help me?

Hi
Note down the message number.
Go to T.code OBA5 input the Application Area first two letters of the message number and look for the message number (the other digits in the message number).Change it from E to W under online and Batch.
Hope your issue should be resolved
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Budget control for Internal Order

Hi
Can any one tell me the setting for budget for internal order to avoid excess processing for procurement ?

You have to configure your GL accounts.
While creating GL a/c you will have to maintain Field status group as R017 Expense Accounts -Internal Order related in Control of doc creation in co code subscreen in tab Create/bank/interest.
Hope this will help.
Enjoy SAP,
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Project-Internal Order Budget Control

Concerning on the Internal Order Budget in SAP, we have the following questions & need clarification :
1) Since the promotion involving SD module, could we enhance the SD module with Internal Order functions & budget control as well? According to the SAP help desk documentation, its possible, pls provide guidelines.
2) I've checked on SAP helpdesk that budget data (including sales & promotion) could capture in COPA via I/Order & pricing conditions. Could we use budget cost in COPA to control the sales & promotion posting in SD module ? pls provide guidelines. We had just implemented COPA with plan but not budget. Could we add this budget as new value field ?
3) I/Order can be updated through different cost elements but would system allow us to control budget by each cost element but only using one for all the cost element ? According to the helpdesk, we could split the I/Order budget by cost centres, transaction group or budget object. Does this similar to our requirement ?
4) I/Order Budget will control the spending by actual posting data or commitment ? Could we control both at once ? Example :
Budget             500k
Actual posting     300k
Commitment     300k
Budget              -ve 100k not +ve 200k
5) Concerning on the issuance of Credit note requisition (CRQ), if we using manual process as entry as Park document then post to FI (currently) and not using PR/PO process, then, how would we have commitment data ?
6) During year end, we may need to perform closing and carry forward the I/Order budget and commitment balance to next fiscal year. Does this mean that controlling need to perform period close also and order settlement even its statistical I/Orders ? we didn't practice this in controlling currently.
7) I/Order budget is control annually. Once the budget I/Order completed fully, it cannot be used again. Hence, does this mean that we need to have different set of I/Order for different year?
Please feedback to us the above soonest possible.
Thanks..............
Elaine

Lot's of questions;
1) At the time of entering a sales order you can enter an Internal oder number as well. That then could be used as part of a tracking process.
2) You control the budget by setting up availability control. Then at the time of entry it checks against the budget to see if you are within you tolerances. Youn can also have reporting in COPA to compare actual to plan and budgets. But there won't be the availablity control. It will be analytical reporting instead.
3)The budget for internal orders is one total. You won't be able to set it up for different cost elements there.
4)The availability control looks at all the components. Yes you can control both
5)The credit will be picked up when posted as an actual posting
6) You will need to do carryforward for all I/O.
7) You can set up the budgets to be for a particular year not overall for I/O.
try to limit the size of your questions in the future to make the response easier
pls assign points if helpful as a way to say thanks.

Unlock CO internal Order

Hi All,
I have a few qns on internal Orders:
1. If i collectively process (KOK4) all CO internal orders of a particular order type , and unlock all these orders :
what exactly will i be doing? I mean - can these orders be flagged for deletion now that they are unlocked?
2. Also - whats the functional reason for locking an internal order?
3. Can I unlock and flag delete an internal order without causing any FI impact on orders which have been created way back in the past - say 2 or 3 fiscal year previously?
Thanks,
Janani

Hi,
Good evening and greetings,
Hope you would have gone through SAP OSS note.
Answer to your question no.2
The functional reason for locking an internal order is to restrict posting to the internal order...In an ideal SAP scenario, the internal order can act as replacement to Project System module if the same is not implemented...The budgets are worked out Internal Order level and controlled through posting the actual cost to the internal order and once the actual touches the budgetted value it will not allow any posting to internal order...I can give you a scenario, say for example it is planned to build a shed for production operations and i have budget of £10000 for the same...the actual cost starts flowing into the internal order and in the middle of construction, if the management decides to hold the construction for reasons, they would temporarily block the internal so that nobody can place a purchase order or goods receipt or any other process on the same and once they decide to go ahead with the construction again they would unlock the same and go ahead with production...this is the functional reason for the same.
Answer to question no.3
Ideally speaking there cannot be a scenario where we can have an impact between FI and CO on account of internal order as you cannot post any accounting entry with the Internal Order as Additional Account Assignment object if it is blocked for posting.
Please reward points if found useful
Thanking you
With kindest regards
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Statisticla Internal Order posting

Hi all,
We have created few statistical internal orders..for Controlling Area CO1.
Can we use these internal orders for the cost centers that are created in a different controlling area C02 ?
If we cannot, is there a way we can change the Controlling area of the Statistical order? I checked in KO02, but there is no option for chaning the controlling area of this order.
Also, what is the significance of the Currency in the Statistical Order? Does it hold any significance as this is a statistical order..
Can we not do any postings in other curreny ( we have EUR currently assigned in the master data )..Can i post in USD for these orders ,
Thanks,
Srikanth.

Can we use these internal orders for the cost centers that are created in a different controlling area C02 ?
probably YES. At the time of assigning the cost centers of ContArea CO2, system will prompt a warning message saying cost centers belongs to different ContArea.
If we cannot, is there a way we can change the Controlling area of the Statistical order? I checked in KO02, but there is no option for chaning the controlling area of this order.
Also, what is the significance of the Currency in the Statistical Order? Does it hold any significance as this is a statistical order..
Currency in Stat Order enables you to see values in that currency, apart from posting(Transaction) currency, Company code currency. currency in the order is nothing but Object Currency.
Can we not do any postings in other curreny ( we have EUR currently assigned in the master data )..Can i post in USD for these orders ,
YES. you can post in USD for orders with EUR currency.

Internal Order budgeting not checking at the time of FB60

Dear All Experts,
Very Good Morning !
I have configured IO budgeting with Overall Planning ticked budget profile. I have assigned budger profile to Order type also.
In KO23 I have given limit also of Rs.10,000 /- for overall and yearly 2011 Rs,5,000 /-. In define tolerance I have maintained two entries as below : 1 is with 01 Group wich will check PO's and 2nd one is 04 Group which will check Financial account document. ( I hope this correct, If not please rectify me ). In tolerance limit I have given 3 as a error should throw.
I refer this thread [Internal Order Budget - Availability Control|Internal Order Budget - Availability Control; from our SDN forum. I activated budget control from KO23 and referring KO30 now system is showing GREEN Availability control is active.
Now when I am running FB60 with assignment IO, system is not throwing any error, warning , it remains normal posting is happening.
If anybody has gone through the same issue, experts inputs / guidance will be very helpfull.
Regards,
Revati Joshi.

Your tolerance limits are fine
Let me put you some points here.
Creating IO
   1. Investment Profile is mandatory for Capital projects
   2. If you are using Investment management, then check IM32, & IM52
   3. KO02 - Check - Investments tab - IM Program and Position ID assinged or not
   4. Need to assign the budget in both Controlling area currecny and object currency (KO12, & KO22)
   5. Availability control should be Active - KO30
   6. Planner plofile - KP04 - Just press F4 and check - if there are any created for your controlling area
   7. Check if you have any line itesm already posted to the IO - KOB1, KOB2, KOB3
Now, the actual plan is - KPF6 and KDF6
Here you need to input the below details
Version                    0
From Period               01
To Period                      12
Fiscal Year          2011
Order                                           input the order
                  to
         or group
Cost Element                              which Cost elemtn you are going to post in FB60
                  to
         or group
Enter those details and in next screen - give the amount for that cost element.
Now o and post in FB60
Hope it helps
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Internal orders - what is its IDOC

I want to create an internal order in finance/controlling. My scenario is to create a IDOC for internal orders in sap system. I am going to use IDOC sender adapter to post the data in SAP. Can some one tell me what is the IDOC type or IDOC I need to import into Integration Repository.
Thanks,
Reddy P

Hi,
It depends on what version of R/3 system you are using...
See if your R/3 system has the IDoc types - INTERNAL_ORDER01 /INTERNAL_ORDER_CREATE01 / INTERNAL_ORDER_CREATE02...?
These can be used..
You can use FMs - IDOC_INPUT_INTERNAL_ORDER / IDOC_INPUT_INTERNAL_ORDER_CREA to post and create the internal orders
Thanks.
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Renjith Andrews

Account assignment category to be used in ME21N -Statistical internal order

Hi Gurus,
I have assigned budget(KO22) for a statistical internal order for budget controlling purpose.
Now I wanted to create a PO in ME21N, so that it should commit that amount in statistical internal order.
As the expenses GL account is used i have to give a cost center, and i have to give this statistical internal order also. So that when booking exceeds the budget amount in statistical order it should display error message.
I tried creating PO with Account assignment group 3 (Cost center +internal order valuated), and i can not see any records in KOB2 or in the report S_ALR_87012993. PO is created even when the PO amount exceeds budget amount.
However it is not allowing invoice posting when exceeding budget.
Can you please tell me with what account assignment group i have to create PO, so that the PO should not be created when the net price amount exceeds statistical internal order amount.
Thanks & Regards,
Diva

Hi
Pls verify the following links and correct your settings
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1886939
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1968328
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1266987
Reg
Vishnu

Internal Order Budgeting for HR and Plant maintenance

Dear All,
I am using internal order for budgeting control. I want to use internal order budgeting for Payroll also. How do i assign internal order for the same.
I want to check budget through internal order for plant maintenance order also. At the time of issue of material to PM order or at the time of settlement.
regards
ranga

Budget Profile:
IMG => Internal Orders => Budgeting and Availability Control => Maintain Budget Profile
Make sure activation type made to 1.
Availability control settings:
IMG => Internal Orders => Budgeting and Availability Control => Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control
Regards,
Ravi

Settle AUC without internal order

Is it possible to settle AUC without Internal Order???

Hello,
Yes, it is possible. You can settle AUC in two ways
1. through internal order (KO88)
2. Through distribution and settlement (AIAB and AIBU)
The major difference between the two is that in case of Internal Order you can establish budgets in the Internal Order which is Control the costs. But in case of direct posting to the AUC, you would not be able to control the cost.
In the Internal Order scenario all the cost is first pooled to the Order and then settled to the Asset at regular intervals. Where as in case of the second method all the expenses are posted directly to the AUC and then it is being Distributed and settled to various Assets as required
1. Asset settlement thought internal order is general used for assets under construction. All costs are pooled in the internal order. Periodically or whenever wants the internal order is settled (within a fiscal year) i.e. the amounts in the internal order are capitalized.
First create an internal order (KO01), take object class as investment and give investment profile. Now system asks and creates one AUC account under asset class 4001.
Then create settlement rule (KO02) and release the order (control data tab) Post some amounts (like wages or non-production material) to internal order. Then come to KO88, first take the automatic settlement and run.
The accounting entry passed is
Asset under construction a/c Dr
To Wages a/c
If you want to complete the settlement to auc, then take now full settlement option and run then accounting entry passed is
Asset a/c Dr
To Asset under construction a/c
While doing settlement in KO88, you can give any settlement period, posting period and asset date, but all should be in the same fiscal year. If you want to close the order go to KO02, give order number and take control data tab and click on technical complete tab on the screen and save. Internal order will be closed.
2. If your AUC is under Asset class 4000
this auc account is created directly because of direct postings to AUC account. Posting are made through F-90 For example
AUC a/c dr
To vendor or bank account
Go to AIAB ---> Give distribution rule and go to AIBU --> Settle the asset
Entry passed is
Asset a/c Dr
To AUC a/c
Thanks
Para

Sales order value flow to internal order without cost elements.

Dear Sap Friends,
My client have a requirement, when sales people creating a sales order, sales value flow into internal order without a cost elements. normal case when SO, Deleivery, and billing data automatically can flow into CO-PA. Here i want to know how value can flow into I.O. without a cost elements please give me advise.
i created a statistical internal order and that internal order i assigned in sales order account assingment. but i know that there is no value going to flow this I.O. becasue there is no cost elements.(becasue client dont want to create a cost element for internal order)
There is any option when i crate a sales order values can go into internal order without cost elements or i can create a statistical Internal Order and assigned into CO-PA? if i can dothatt what is the steps. kindly explain to me. if some have can explain to me please leave contacts number or send me reply.
Regards
Paul

By standard configuration itr is not possible.
You ought to have user exit in place.
For DC A & B, where you need a redetermination of pricing component, take help of an ABAPer for user exit USEREXIT_XKOMV_FUELLEN (module pool SAPLV61A, program RV61AFZB).
So now, for DC C, you need to change the copying control in VTFL - item, where your pricing type ought to be D-Copy pricing elements unchanged.
Regards
JP
ASSUMPTION: I assume that your all DC uses the same Sales Doc type & Billing Doc type

Error in Flow of Actual Values to Internal Orders

Dear All,
Please help me in this regard.
_*Scenario*_
         My Client using Internal Orders for Procurement of Machinaries. So, while creating PO we are taking the account assignment category as F. (Internal Order)
*Step 1*
         Against the PO, GR (MIGO) has been done for which in the accounting document IO & PO reference is also available.
_*Step 2*_
        MIRO completed, and in the vendor invoice against the GR/IR Internal Order & PO reference is available.
_*Check Points*_
        I've checked the Database Table EKKN, where in I am able to see the Internal Order liked with PO.
_*Issue Facing*_
        Now, the user need to do the settlement of this IO to the respective GL account. But, when i checked the Basic Report for Internal Order Actual Line Items, like
                 KOB1, KSB5, S_ALR_87012993, S_ALR_87013011
        System is giving error as No Actaul Line Items Exists.
Thanks.
Talluri

Hi
Thanks for your reply.
I've checked the Controlling Document for Accounting Document of MIRO thru Relationship Browser, where i am finding the CO entry with Cost center only for Manual Tax entry.
As per the standard entry is concern it should be:
        Internal Order & Cost Center Has to be Debited with the Net Amount of MIRO Document.
Where in, as the user given the tax amount manual with seperate account, only that is reflecting in the CO document.
What step can be done now, to make it proper.
Please advice me.
Thanks
Edited by: TALLURI on Oct 17, 2008 4:07 PM

Message control for Internal Orders

Hi
How to change the message control for an error when Iu2019m getting settling internal orders (message # KD503)
Tks

Hi
You need to maintain Condition record for your Purchase Order output. Then output will get assign automatically once you create PO.
Use Transaction code: MN04
Navigation:
Logistics --> Materials Management --> Purchasing --> Master Data --> Messages --> Purchase Order --> Create
Enter PO output type and maintain necessary conditions.
hope it helps.
regards
Srinivas

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