Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting

Dear Experts,
I had search with all dimension regarding Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting. But I didn't get any proper information.
Can anyone pls let me know how to do Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle

Hello Balaji,
I don't think the option of budgeting period wise is available if you consider a period to be a month. However, you can have yearly budgets. This is monitored by the budget profiles that are configured in SPRO and attached to order types. However, in Planning (transaction KPF6) you can always plan monthly values but there would not be an availability control.
The reason might be that internal orders are event based cost objects and a month might be too short period to assess and therefore the option is provided anually. Whereas the performance monitoring can happen with help of planning the budgeting should be done only when availablity control is required.
Kind Regards // Shaubhik

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Please tell me any one that can i maintain internal order Budget month (Period) wise update? In the transcation code KO22 show only Yearly budget.

Hi ,
In Standard SAP it is not possible to enter a monthly budget for internal orders via transaction KO22. You can only enter
the budget anually.

Internal order with a budget

I have a real internal order with a budget.
In case I create the settlement of the internal order by period end- how this will impact from the budget point of view
(I am steeling the cost with the original account to a cost center).
I mean to say- will the system refer the settlement as a deduction in cost - so i will have more available budget- this is a scenario I am not interested in.
How can i solved this conflict (in case this conflict is in place).

Hi
If you are settling to a Budget controlled object i.e. the receiver also has a budget on it - In that case, settlement would release the budget from sender IO
Else, it does not
br, Ajay M

Why does internal order can exceed budget ?

i use real internal order 400001 . set budget at KO22 year 2008 = 100 (post not over 100)
config at t-code KOT2_OPA budget profile = 000001
and set order availability control : tolerance limits = 100 (error message)
but when i post expense at FB60 i use internal order 400001
to get value 5000. document can post and saved.
please tell me .
1 why internal order can post exceed budget 100 ?
2 can i use statistical internal order to check budget ?
Edited by: dittaporn nanasilp on Oct 16, 2008 5:36 AM

Hi
1.Check in OPTK whether you have exempted that cost element.
2.Check tolerance limit is set for "all activity groups"
3.Use KO31 to reconstruct availabilty control.
Regards

INTERNAL ORDER PERIODIC CONTROL

Hi,
In Internal order there is no periodic control. But in budget (KO22) is there any periodic control?
Or
Is there any way to use the blocked option -"select time frame", under menu-goto-period in Budget(KO22)?
Regards
Prakash

Hi,
Internal order has no validity period (not like cost centre).
Regards,
Eli

Internal Order - Periodic Reposting

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I have got statistic internal orders (for company-cars) - that have all the same cost-center as a collector.
At the end of the month I would like to transfer costs to other cost centers.
I tried to do that with KSW1 - I entered Internal Order and Cost Element Group as sender and Cost Center as Receiver.
When executing it in KSW5 system tells me that Cycle does not include any senders.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Greetings
Berni

Hi Bernhard,
you said "I tried to do that with KSW1 - I entered Internal Order and Cost Element Group as sender and Cost Center as Receiver."
Your internal orders are statistical (posting with value type 11).
Actual cost (value type 4) can only be reposted from a REAL CO-object (in your case the cost center assigned to each statistical order).
So enter the cost center / cost element as sender and the cycle will find sender values.
Best regards, Christian

Internal Order budget - Monthwise

Hi
I have my internal order for telephone expense budget. I created one internal order (as statistical) and assigned yearly budget of Rs.240000 in KO22.
My requirement is that the yearly budget of Rs.240000 should be splitted into 12 months. Is there any way where i can give monthly budget. How can i handle monthly budget process.

Hi,
Refer Note: 50191 Budgeting on a monthly basis
Also check thread Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting
regards
Waman

How to block entry through internal order budget in F-02

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Kindly tell me during Purchase order creation through internal order (Order related PO) whreas budget is maintained against that internal order if the PO amount is exceede than budgeted amount it gives warning / error messge that budget is exceeded. Same internal order or any other internal order which has budget against that internal order if I go to F-02 tcode and pass entry with cost center and internal order(budget is given) both it does not give any warning message if budget value exceeded i.e, F-02 posted amount is greater than budgetd amount. It goes to next screen which should not do. Kindly tell me the reason why it is not being blocked and goes to next screen or if there is any configuration please guide me.
Best Regards,
Samrat
Edited by: Samrat Roy on Nov 2, 2010 11:43 AM

Hi Eli,
Now I have observed during saving the record in F-02 it gives warning message as per tolerance limit set in config area. Actually I want in F-02 screen when you put Document date, posting date, type, period, company code, currency, posting key(debit), GL account, next 2nd screen you mention amount, cost center, internal order(budget is maintained), posting key(credit) and press enter for next 3rd screen to put credit amount. While you go from 2nd screen to 3rd screen then warning / error message should give if amount is exceeded than budgeted amount which I am getting during saving. Is it possible to make any check between two screens ????
Beside I would ask you here tolerance limit is set as 95%, 100% and 102%. During PO creation through internal order it gives error message when amount is exceeded than 102% as budget is exceeded. If the amount is between 95% to 99% it does not give warning message which should do. But from posting in F-02 screen it gives proper messge in all levels since 95 % to 99% and 101% to 102%.
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Samrat

Budgeting thru Internal Order with Account assignment category 'A'

Dear All
I want Budgeting thru Internal Order with Account assignment category 'A'
i.e
Created Assets with Tcode As01
Created Internal Order and assigned budget amount to IO with Tcode KO01 and KO22
Created Purhcase Requisition with Account assignment catg as 'A' i.e asstes. Also given Internal Order No and Asset code in PR.
Releases PR with ME54N
Created Purchase Order with Account assignemnt catg as 'A' i.e asstes. In Purchase Order it displays Internal Order No. and Asset code which i have given in PR in Account assignemnt tab on Item level
Released Purchase Order.
Now i am checking budget detail in Tcode : S_ALR_87013019 -> List: Budget/Actual/Commitments , Here it gives message , "No line item were selected " in Commitment line items.
Actually my requirement is , i want budgeting thru internal order and want to use Account assignment category as 'A' (Assets) in PR and PO.
Why it's not showing detail in report S_ALR_87013019 .
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Swati Shah

Hi Swati,
You can do this in Asset Accounting. By standard MIGO Posting Date is taken as capitalization date for asset. You can configure to make it 'Document Date'.
So, whenever user is posting thru MIGO, he will have better control on deciding capitalization date by inputting appropriate date in Document Date Field in MIGO.
Check this thread..
Re: Depreciation start date for asset thru MIGO
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Sayujya

Assigning Commitment of an internal order budget to internal services

Dear All,
At the moment I'm wondering if it is possible that the commitment of an internal order (or wbs element in the project system) which has a budget takes internal services/ internal deliveries into account.
Example:
Internal order with a budget of 100 u20AC
External P/O, value 50 u20AC
--> Commitment 50 u20AC, available budget 50 u20AC
"Internal P/O" (?), value 20 u20AC
--> Commitment 70 u20AC, available budget 30 u20AC
We are allocating internal services to internal orders/ wbs elements and as these services are not considered in the commitment until now the budget has always to be increased. I was looking for s. th. like a internal P/O but I haven't find s.th.
Any help is highly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
hansi

Hi,
thanks for the resposes which directed me in the right direction - I was looking more precisely to the topic funds commitment (which I found now and what is doing exactly what I needed).
Kind Regards,
Hansi

Not Check Internal Order - Budgeting in ME21N

Hi Expert;
Please help me.
When PR is converted into a PO using account assignment:F, System do not check budget ???
Internal Order = 30007 and Budget = 100,000.
Thanks.

Hi,
Have you activated Committement management in transection code KOT2_OPA, KOAO and OKKP
Regards,
Manish

Internal orders budget.

Hi all,
The requirement is when ever we parking an entry using internal order(statical) the budget exceed warning/error message should be shown in parking stage itself. this can be solved using validations.?. if yes please let me know the steps.
Thank you.

Hi,
Parked documents consume the budget, so the availability control messages are issued. Please, clarify your problem...
Regards,
Eli

Internal Order - carryforward MIRO Invoice against MIGO receipt

Hi,
I have created an internal order (TCode KO04 & KO21 )
Allocated full budget for year 2007
Then I have linked it to an asset.
A Purchase Order is made with link to the asset.
A Goods receipt (MIGO) entry also was created against the PO
All these transactions are done in F.year 2007
At this point, the year-end procedure has completed.
For the internal order, when I try to do KOCO , zero amount is shown in the carryforward
because the actuals are posted by GRN.
When I do KOCF, there is no commitments to be carried forward to 2008.
Now I want to post the MIRO invoice agaist the above PO in period 01 of fyear 2008.
The system gives error - " The internal Order has no budget in 2008"
Since the GRN was done in 2007, I thought the Invoice should go through.
Now why the system is checking for budget in 2008 and giving the error ?
Help from anyone would be appreciated.

Hi William,
You did the following steps:
A Purchase Order is made with link to the asset. not the internal order???
A Goods receipt (MIGO) entry also was created against the PO
All these transactions are done in F.year 2007
I think the proces is now completed
The PO create the commitment (the budget is used)
The MIRO place the commitment on 0 an post actual values. (the budget is still used)
Result
No values for carryforward Budget and commitments
Now I want to post the MIRO invoice agaist the above PO in period 01 of fyear 2008
Is this second time that you make the same posting???
There is no budget you used it already in 2007 and you get the error The internal Order has no budget in 2008
I think when I follow your process the system is working perferc and make it impossible to go over budget with your second invoice

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Hi
When i am trying to save the internal order ,for which i have assigned the investment profile ,system is giving below error
Object concerned: New order .
The object is a capital investment measure, since it has the investment profile 000009, in which the indicator "manage asset under construction" is set. In addition, it is no longer at system status EROF (opened). In this case, there has to be an asset under construction for the object.
System Response
You can create the missing asset under construction.
The object cannot be saved in its current state.
Where i can set this EROF in the status profile.
Thanks
Lily

Hi Lily !
The internal order you have created belongs to an order type which is attached to a model order. The model order is assigned an asset class which is managed on the Investment measure.
In this case, you have to create an asset under construction before releasing the Internal order. Other wise, the system will not allow you to save the internal order.
When you settle the internal order periodically, the values will automatically flow to the AUC asset.
For more details you can check the configuration on Investment management.
Inthis case, create the AUC asset with the asset class ( which is defined as the AUC investment measure)
Thanks
Siva

Internal Order & Asset

Dear All,
user want to control the asset purchasing with approved budget. in order to achieve the user requirement we created internal order , entered the budget & activate the availability control.
at the time of PO creation, we input Asset & internal order. system activated the budget availability control on PO/PR elevl. which one is good.we also created the statiscal cost element for the Asset reconciliation account. For this our requirement is fulfiling
we have the following query.
1-the process that we are following, is it ok ?
2-is there impact/ effect for creating the statiscal cost element of asset reconciliation account.
3-is there any other process ?.

Hi Friend,
The process what you are following is correct...
There would not be any impact by creating the statistical cost elements.....
Another option is ......
Create an internal order... and create the purchase order against Internal order ( No need to give any assets and no need to create any statistical cost elemetn also)
Then settle the internal order to Fixed assets....
Thanks & Regards
Ravi C

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