Internal order sender reciever?

Iam in bit confusion with settlment rule where in the reciever side we give FXA(fixed asset),CCR (costcenter),and G/L account.what kind of a amount would be settled to particular reciver?
which amount would go to FXA..
which amount would go to CCR
which amount would go to G/L account? in settlement?
could you please explain me about recievers...
Thanks & Regards,
kiran

Hi,
Internal order is a temporary collection bucket, in this case, of capital procurement. You can plan, budget and analyze the procurement thru an internal order. Till this point of time, it will not have any update in Asset Accounting. After analysing the IO, you can settle to Fixed assets, GL etc depends upon the requirement. AUC (Assets under construction) is again a collection bucket of all asset values before being capitalized. Ideal example would be construction of a building. Normally, no depreciation will be computed for AUCs. Once the asset is ready, it will be transferred/settled to a regular asset and depreciation will be computed from thereon.
Hope this clarifies your doubt.
Best Regards,
Madhu

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Can you tell me what is meant by "Internal Order from GL/Cost Element.."?
As per the functionality, when you settle an internal order, something is moved from the intrnal order and put to another. Hence the place from where it is moved is credited and the receiver is debited. The internal order has postings through the cost element you have posted. So the movement is from what the internal order has in its account.
Order settlement is done through a secondary cost element created and this cost element is used for debiting and crediting the sender and receivers. Hence your idea of using a totally different GL/Cost element (of course that do not have postings with respect fo the internal order in question) is not practical, I hope.

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i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
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When I am trying to settle Internal Order to both Reciever categories G/L and CTR(cost center) in a single internal order master.
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in F-90 only you can post the asset aquisition.
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Whle executing the internal order in KO8G,I am getting the below error.
Complete Allocation Structure A1 and Message no. KD503
I have reversed/cancelled all the relevent Material documents related to that PO,even after i am getting the same error.
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Complete allocation structure A1
Message no. KD503
Diagnosis
During settlement, the system puts the sender debits into groups (assignments), which are settled using the same settlement cost element. The settlement assignment is made in the allocation structure, which is stored in the settlement rule for the sender (under settlement parameters).
Cost element 414126 cannot be assigned to a settlement cost assignment in allocation structure A1, and therefore it cannot be assigned to a settlement cost element.
Procedure
Possible solutions are as follows:
If the posting under cost element 414126 was made to the sender because of an incorrect entry, and you can reverse the posting, and do not need to update the allocation structure. You only need to reverse the incorrectly assigned posting before repeating the settlement. Exception: For an investment measure with a line item settlement, you need to extend the allocation structure, even after the reversal.
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In allocation structure A1 (controlling area AFCO), you did not define which cost element should be used when settling costs/revenues of the sender. Nor did you define receiver type FXA.
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During settlement, the system puts the sender debits into groups (assignments), which are settled using the same settlement cost element. The settlement assignment is made in the allocation structure, which is stored in the settlement rule for the sender (under settlement parameters). Cost element 430500 cannot be assigned to a settlement cost assignment in allocation structure K1, and therefore it cannot be assigned to a settlement cost element.
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The same configuration in Development Server there is no error but problem occurs in Quality server. Here the process is Internal Order creation - Creation of Reservation through MB21- Goods Issue against reservation through MB1A and finally settlement through KO88. During settlement this error occur. In configuration setting of allocation structure under Internal Order I have mentioned only revenue settlement (as per business) against assignments. Under source mentioned cost element group and under settlement cost elment Receiver Cat is "CTR" and tick "By Cost Element".
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81(Dr). 430500 Constimptuion Saprae and Stores
99(Cr). 310411 Inventory Machinery and Spare.
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NB.. COPA is not implemented in our company. So PA structure should not arrise here....
Thanks & regards,
Samrat
Edited by: Samrat Roy on Aug 30, 2010 7:28 PM

Hi Samrat,
The issue is very simple.. Cost element 430500 is posted in your IO...
While settling you have 2 options... Either you can credit the original GL account 430500.. This happens when you tick "By Cost element".. This you have done already...
2nd option is not to tick "By Cost element" and assign a secondary cost ele category 21...
But for any of these options to work, you have to include GL 430500 in the "source"... The above 2 options apply only to those GL accounts which are mentioned in the "Source".... for rest of the GL accounts, system gives this error
Include 430500 in your "source" cost ele group.. Error will be resolved
Regards
Ajay M

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