Internal Order type - Configuration change
Hi
I have created an Internal Order type in January and we have create internal orders under that order type in our production server and have used those as well.
I want to remove the revenue posting tick which has been allowed in this order type which was done at the time when the order type was created.
If I remove the revenue posting setting now, do i need to replace the internal orders which has been created under that order type with new ones after the configuration change? OR will the entries posted earlier (before the configuration change) work according to the old order type settings and will the order work according to the new settings after the change date?
Thanks
Trishan
Hi,
Don't you know if there is any program that updates the old order master data, according to posterior changes in the order type?
Thanks. Best regards,
Cátia
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How to change the internal order type when it has been created?
There is an internal order, when it being created, the user chose the incorrect order type and save it. but the internal order number is useful. so we just want to change the order type or delete the order to release the number. so can you give me some solutions to solve it. I can not find the way neither change the order type nor delete it. thanks very much.
You are unable to change the internal order type once an internal order has been created, however you can delete the IO if there haven't been any postings made.
In change mode (tcode KO02), go into the internal order. Go into the following menu: Edit > Deletion Flag > Set. Before you exit the IO, save the master record.
Depending upon your archiving settings, you should then be able to select the menu path: Edit > Set Deletion Indicator.
If the IO isn't deleted, you can "clobber" it by going into the IMG and deleting the IO using the function "Delete Test Data". This should only be done by a technical person to ensure that a mass-delete doesn't occur.
Please note that if the IO was an internally assigned number, you might just want to block it and re-use it later.
Hope this helps.
Kylie -
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My client want to create new internal order type. so My doubt is new order type need to create directly in production server or not. Because development server orders type and production server order type there is some miss match is there.
Kindly adviceu2026..
Reg,
BharathHi,
Certainly, not. It's a customization issue and should be initiated from DEV. When you create a change request (automatically) the system will pick only modifications (your new order type), so there should be no problem with inconsistencies.
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Hi,
Is it possible to delete the internal order types once created in development system.
if yes what are the implications?
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Is the Development and Testing client in the same server... I mean if you have not released the transport request you can delete the desired order type and save in the same transport request for transporting to production.
If you have already released even then you can delete the order type and store in the change request and transport it to production. you will not have the deleted order type in production.
As you were mentioning that you have already posted some entries in your IO.... set the deletion flag for the internal orders which wear created using this order type in change mode or and go to T.Code: OKO5 or use this programme in T.Code: SE38 RKODEL01 for deleting the Internal orders... after which you can delete your order type.
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Do the following configuration steps for AuC scenario.
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1.2 Define Asset Classes
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1.2 Maintain Settlement Profile
IMG Investment Management Internal Orders as Investment Measures
SettlementMaintain Settlement Profile
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IMG Controlling Internal Orders Actual Postings Settlement
If you want budgetary control also do the following steps:
3 Planning and Budgeting
3.1 Maintain Planning Profiles
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3.2 Maintain Budget Profile
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Planning and Budgeting Maintain Budget Profile
3.3 Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control
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Planning and Budgeting Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control
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Kiran -
New internal order type--need help
Dear all:
i have a case need help.
now i want to create a new internal order type ,and assign a new number range and a default settlement rule to it .
the settlement rule is that the actual costs of this internal order type need to be
sent to a cost element .
what should i do step by step?
thanks!
best regards!Hi,
2. Order Master Data
2.1 Define Order types (KOT2_OPA)
IMG Controlling  Internal Orders Order Master Data  Define Order Types
An Internal order is created under an Order type. An order type is used for storing various control parameters and various defaults while creating an internal order. It is used for classifying various types of internal orders according to usage for e.g. Real orders for trade fairs, real orders for Capital investment measure, Statistical orders for motor vehicle expenses.
The order type is client-specific, which means that every order type can be used in all controlling areas. A number range is assigned to the internal order type.
Click on New Entries
Take a drop in the field Order category and select 01
Enter
Update the following
Give Order Type :- Z810
Description :- Traders First Real order type
Object Class :- OCOST overhead
Reference Order :- Collective order without automatic goods movement
Residence time 1 :- 12 months
Residence time 2 :- 1 month
Check Commit Management and Check Integrated Planning
Activate CO Partner Updating -You activate this so that allocations between orders and other CO objects (cost centers, projects, etc.), the partner information is retained and whether for each order a totals record should be written.
Save
Click on Field Selection
Here you can hide the various fields or make it as required entry or only display or available for input. Thus while creating internal order only those fields are displayed and available for input.
Click Save
2.2 Maintain Number Ranges for Orders (KONK)
IMG Controlling  Internal Orders  Order Master Data Maintain Number Ranges for Orders
Number Range needs to be assigned to the internal order type. Number range can be internal or external. In Internal numbering system automatically assigns a number from the given number range. In external numbering the user has to manually assign the number from the given number range.
We will configure internal number range for our internal order type Trade Fair
Click on Group Maintain (From the menu bar)
Click on Group  Insert (From the menu bar)
Update the following
From Number: - 910000000000
To Number: - 919999999999
Click in plus icon at the left bottom of the screen
Click Save
You will find internal order type Z810 in not assigned
You need to assign the order type to the group we created above. Proceed as follows:-
Position the cursor on: - Z810 Trade Fair real order type
Click on Arrow Z810 Trade Fair real order type note it turns blue
Select Check mark Z810 A ltd India fair real order
Click Element Group
The internal order type Z910 moves under the group which can be seen as follows:-
Z810: A Ltd India Trade fair real order / Z810 Trader Fair real order type.
Click Save
Select: - Z810: A Ltd India Trade fair real order / Z810 Trader Fair real order type.
Click on Pencil icon.
Click Back arrow.
2.3 Define Model Orders
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Order Master Data Screen Layout
Define Model Orders
Model orders are not orders in the commercial sense, but serve merely as references for creating "normal" orders. Model orders contain default values for the orders in an order type. The Model order is assigned as the reference order in the order type.
When you create a new order, all the fields active in the relevant order type are copied from the model order to the new order.
Example
You want to settle all your marketing orders to the same sales cost center. Stipulate the cost center as the default value in the model order for marketing orders.
When you create a new marketing order, the system defaults this cost center. If you want to settle the order to a different cost center, you can overwrite the default cost center in the orders.
We will create a model order with some defaults and assign it to the Trade fair internal order type
Click Create CO Model Order
Press F4 and select ($$) 03 model order
Click on the master data and update the following
Order: - $$$ Z81000001
Description text: - A Limited Trade affair
Click Save
Assign this model order to the order type Z810
Update the reference order with the model order number $$$Z81000001 in the reference order field
Click on save.
3 Planning
3.1 Maintain User-Defined Planner Profiles
IMGControllingInternal OrdersPlanningManual PlanningMaintain User-Defined Planner Profiles
Check the User defined planner profile ZOCM91 created by us contains the layouts for internal orders.
Double click on General controlling
Planning area: Cost element/activity inputs.
Cost Center: Activities/Prices
CCtr Statistical key figures
Orders: Cost Element/Activity inputs
Ord: Statistical key figures
Select :- Orders: Cost element/activity inputs
Double Click on Layouts for control
3.2 Maintain Planner Profile for Overall Planning (OKOS)
IMG  ControllingInternal OrdersPlanningManual PlanningMaintain Planner Profile for Overall Planning
Here you can specify the time frame for which values are to be planned for Internal order. Further you can also default the number of decimal places and the display factor. Default cost element group while planning.
Double click on Define planning profile for overall planning
Click on New Entries
Select 05 Planned Total
Profile: 810000 General Plan Profile A Ltd
Click Save
Select back arrow
Double click maintain planning profile for order type
Give: - Z810 Trader Fairs Real order type
Give Plan profile: - 910000
Click Save
4 Settlement
4.1 Maintain Allocation structure
IMG ControllingInternal OrdersActual PostingsSettlement Maintain Allocation Structures
An Allocation structure comprises one or several settlement assignments. An assignment shows which costs (origin: cost element groups) are to be settled to which receiver type (e.g. cost center, order and so on)
You have 2 options:- You can settle to a settlement cost element or settle by cost element i.e. settle using the original cost element.
We will use settle by cost element.
Click on New Entries
Allocation stru :- Z8
A Ltd : Internal order settlement structure
Click Save
Select Z8 Internal order settlement structure
Double click on Assignments
Click on New Entries
Assignment :- 10 Settlement Primary cost Element
Click Save
Select 10 Settlement Primary cost Element
Double Click on Source
Give From Cost Element To Cost Element
Save
Click back arrow
Note:-The color has become green
Select: Settlement primary cost element
Double click on Settlement cost
Click New Entries
Select CTR Cost Center
By Cost Element Check
Save
4.2 Maintain Settlement Profile
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Actual Postings SettlementMaintain Settlement Profile
Here we define a range of control parameters for settlement.
Double Click on Maintain Settlement Profiles
Click on New Entries
Select Settlement not allowed
Assign the allocation structure Z9 created earlier in the settlement profile.
Click on Save.
Select Back Arrow
Double Click on Enter Settlement Profile in order types
Give Settlement Profile Z9100
Click on Save.
4.3 Maintain Number Ranges for Settlement Documents
IMG Controlling Internal Orders Actual Postings SettlementMaintain Number Ranges for Settlement Documents
You should define separate number range intervals for settlement documents for each controlling area.
Click Group  Maintain
Click Group Insert
Update the following:-
Give From Number 1000000000- To Number 1999999999
Click on + at the bottom left side.
Click 8100
Click on Arrow icon.
Select Settlement documents for A limited Check box
Click Element group button
Click SAVE
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Zia -
Hi,
I would like to get some information/help on order type configuration for a new controlling area.
Thanks!Here's some config documentation below. To the left beside each config (execution)set up area there is a IMG activity documentation (with eye glasses). Select it and it will tell you about that config area in more detail.
Maintain Settlement Profile
In the settlement profile, you define a range of control parameters for settlement. You must define the settlement profile before you can enter a settlement rule for a sender.
If you want to settle the costs each time to just one cost center or just one G/L account, you need a settlement profile. As you cannot maintain the settlement parameters during settlement to a receiver, you must save the settlement profile either in the order type or in the model order or reference order.
Recommendation
The settlement profile includes, among other things, the retention period for the settlement documents. You should bear in mind the following when you determine the retention period.
The settlement documents take up additional storage capacity. When a posting period is finally locked against further postings in Financial Accounting and Controlling, you can clear the settlement documents. However, you should build in a safety margin, as you will need the settlement documents if you have to cancel any settlements or repeat the period end close.
Activities
1. Create a settlement profile.
2. Save the profile in the order type.
Additional Information
For more information on this subject, go to the R/3 Library and choose AC - Financials -> CO - Controlling -> Internal Orders - > CO Settlement. -
Profit center and company code field in Internal order type (KOT2)
Dear Experts,
I want to bydefault profit center and company code in ordertype customization.
Profit center and company code field in Internal order type (KOT2)
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RRHi
1. Create a Model Order in KOM1
Enter the Comp Code and PC and other fields you want and save it
2. Enter this Model order in your Internal Order Type in KOT2... Transport this change to production client
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We have several internal Orders types and we want to block the creation of new IO. Is there any way through customizing to do that?
I have considering to do it using an step in a validation but I think can be a better way.
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Ravi is right, you can restrict through authorizations. To do that, you have to modify the role assigned to users that allow them to create internal orders of any type. Use the transaction SUIM, search the role by user or by transaction (KO01). Then, in the role, there is an entry that corresponds to Controlling (CO) -
> CO-OPA: General authorization object for internal orders (K_ORDER) -
>
Order Type (AUFART) : Select for example RA01
Internal order authorization (AUTHPHASE) :
Actions for CO-OM Authorizatio (CO_ACTION) : 0000 Master Data.
Cost Element (KSTAR) :
CO-OM Responsibility Area (RESPAREA) :
Usually a BASIS do the modification of the role.
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David Z. -
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here budget manager is assigned to order type
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Internal order types and number ranges
We have two SAP instances and want to load Internal order types and number ranges and Internal orders from 4.6 to 4.5 version.
I need to determine if there is an overlap of number ranges for the internal order types used in 4.6 and 4.5
Could you please help me how to approach? Manually verifying each range in both system is a tedious job and very confusing as the numbers are too big.Hi,
I can suggest one thing which seems to be worth trying. Involve one technical guy in downloading the number ranges as well the orders of the numbers used from both the system and compare it. Then compile them and upload it again.
Trust this helps much!
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How to restrict Internal Order master data changes
Hi Experts,
We have internal orders that have no Functional Area assigned to it at the beginning of the month, but part way through the month a change is made to the master data and a Functional Area gets assigned to the internal order. When settlement is run at the end of the month, part of the internal order has a FA blank and part of the internal order has a FA of OPEX or G&A depending on what was assigned in the master data. This causes an issue because they don't offset.
Typically if no change was made to the master data during the month, all the transactions to the internal order with FA blank would offset and there would be no issues on settlement.
So, how can we control in the system that does not allow changes?.
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Otherwise, restrict the authorization to someone who understands the criticality of it
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Internal order profit center change
Hi sap gurus,
I want change the internal order profit center but when iam changing the profit center the below message is coming
You changed the profit center; see long text
Message no. KO367
Diagnosis
You have changed the profit center from 1110-P to 1610-P. This is only allowed when the corresponding configuration was made in Customizing. Then this message is only a warning, which you can ignore.
Procedure
If you want to make it possible to change the profit center, you should change this message from an error message into a warning. To do this choose Adjust message control (Application area "KO", message number "367").
When you change the profit center, the last period should be settled and since then no more postings should have been made.
Notes
Order values can already have been updated on the profit center you are assigning to. For the new assignment, only the new order values on the profit center you are now assigning to are posted.
If an order is assigned to a profit center and the "Integrated Planning" indicator is set, plan costs can be updated in the future on the old profit center.Hi,
Changing profit centre assignment to internal order has certain consequences, which are partially listed in the message. So, the system gives you a choice to forbid this kind of action or allow by making the message only a warning. If you want to do so, go to OBA5 transaction, enter the 'KO' as application area and change the parameters for 367 message.
Regards,
Eli -
Can order type be changed once it was created?
Hi,
Is there any possible way to change the production order type after it was created?
Thanks!
WesleyWesley,
Since it is a custom order type it all depends on its configuration. Probably you need to check from the settlement side as what would be effect. If both the order types are settling to MAT(Material) then I dont see an Issues of wrong order type, the other thing may be interms of any custom reporting taken based on order type.
If you still feel that this needs to be sorted out. You can reverse the confirmation and Goods movment from the wrong order(Order type) and then set deletion flag to it, then create a new order with correct order type and perform Confirmation and Goods movement.
Regards,
Prasobh -
Internal Order's Planning change history
Hi Experts,
As per our requirement, we want to track changes made in Internal Order (Tr .code KO02) whenever changes made in only planning (not in Master data for which we are able find change documents). Also for Planning changed history we are able to find recent user which had done changes in the planning but we are not able to find what changes made by him & previous history of changes.
I already checked the tables CDHDR, CDPOS, CDCLS and Tr.code AUT10 but not able to find any Internal Orders Planning change history. any suggestions are highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance..Use KOBP to see line items in order planning. Change the layout to show user, date, cost element, order.
As plan data is not master data there is no change history, but documents posted for planning data.
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