Internal SATA Hard Drive

Just installed a seagate SATA Hard Drive into my expansion drive.
It was recognized right away, I formatted it and it mounted immediately.
However, the drive is SATA 3.0 and my system is SATA 1.5. There is a jumper setting on the drive to make it SATA 1.5, and I am pretty sure I set it up correctly.
My question is... if I had the jumper wrong and the drive was still in 3.0 mode, would it not work? Or could it possibly fry my system? I think I got everything right, but I am trying to make sure.
Thanks in advance for the information.
Message was edited by: Williams

So... here's the final details.
First, the "top" of the drive is defined as the silver side with the label. The guy I talked to from Seagate was very cool and said he had heard my question many times. So that answers the question about the jumper. Also, the jumper is FACTORY INSTALLED in the 1.5 setting. To change to 3.0 you just remove the jumpers.
Now, as to my question... if the drive was in 3.0 mode would it work in a 1.5 system? The answer is no. It wouldn't damage the system, but the drive would not mount.
However, if the system was 3.0 and the drive was in 1.5 mode, it would work. In this situation, it is backwards-compatible.
There you go, thank you all for your responses.
Message was edited by: Williams

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many harddrives just come with different ways to connect them.
the only sata drives i now that spins faster is western digital raptors 10k rpm.
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