Investment order settlement?
hi
can anyone tell me why we settle investment order on AUC and not on cost centre.
regards
sanjay nanda
Hi,
COST CENTER--->The costs that arise from processing an order (for example, costs for material, personnel or external services) have the individual technical objects (equipment, functional locations) as a reference object.
The costs are initially collected on the order. They are then transferred to the settlement receiver specified in the settlement rule. The receiver of the costs is independent of the reference object, which merely provides a proposal.
AUC--->>Special order that settles the costs of an investment measure to an asset under construction (AuC).
Investment measures are used to create new assets or maintain existing assets to increase their value, which you must then capitalize.
You can settle the costs that have been collected on an investment order to an AuC. In this case, the system automatically generates a settlement rule for the AuC when the costs are first settled. If some of the costs collected on the order are to go into the costs settlement, then you can create another settlement rule (preliminary settlement) manually for these costs.
You can test particular settlements to find out which type of settlement is most suitable for you. To simulate depreciation for an order, choose the tab page Investment in the investment order and then Depreciation simulation. The system saves the data from the depreciation simulation. The order subsequently receives a corresponding status.
As soon as the fixed asset is completed, you can create and process your data from the order. In the case of full settlement, the system posts the values that were originally on the AuC to the completed fixed asset.
Regards,
Rakesh
Similar Messages
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Error while doing investment order settlement
Dear all,
My client has not settled certain line items in the
previous year for some Investment orders. Now when he
is carrying out settlement (KO88), for the current
period, he is getting error message " AW 624"(first
settle items from the previous year in the previous
year). How can he settle previous years item in the
current year since FI & CO periods are all closed for
prev. year.
The settlement rule is AUC in this case.
Thanks in adv.
VijayaHi
As per note 82514:
If you simply want to settle the unsettled values from the previous year
in the current year, proceed as described in Notes 425601 and 819197. If
settlement for the previous year is no longer possible, due to concluded
fiscal years in FI and CO, or the reporting problems described above
have to be avoided due to settlement in the previous year, settlement in
the current fiscal year is then particularly necessary.
As far as I know, if note 425601 is fully implemented, AW624 should
become editable in OBA5. Could you please check if the coding has been
correctly applied? Especially below steps need to be done manually:
As a prerequisite for Transaction OBA5, you must first of all implement
the program corrections of note 425601 and insert the following
table entries :
o As of Release 4.6: Use Transaction SM31 to include application
area 'AW' into table V_T100SA.
o Start Transaction SM31 to include the following entry in table
T100S:
'Application area MsgNo Allowed Standard Switch off'
AW 624 EWI E 'X'
Regards
Javier Reviriego -
Capital Investment order settlement
There are some AUCs created via capital investment orders. But the problem is These AUCs were creted during the time when the Depreciation area is de-activated for the particular class. After that there s GR, IR & Payment all with reference to PO.
One point tp note, as the AUCs were created when the dep area is in-active, the depreciation tab is in active in the AUC master record. When you are running theorder settlement (KO88), there is an error message saying "NO DEPRECIATION AREA DEFINED FOR THE AUC NO:12345".
The solution I am able to see as of now is:
1. Create a new investment order so the new AUC
2.Reset the clearing (Payment document)
3. Reverse the IR
4. Reverse the GR
5 Change the order reference in account assignment tab in PO
6. Do the GR
7. DO the IR
8. Clear the Vendor Account
9. Settle the new order
But not sure how to delete the old AUC, I am able to close the old order in this fashion. But not in a position to delete the AUC. Any idea?
Also please suggest me if there is any other easier way, because this will take a hell out of time.Ananda,
Transferring all the costs out of the CI Order into a new one with a new AUC attached should automatically zero & deactivate the old AUC.
Depending on your setup, a journal from old --> new Order should suffice.
You may then run settlement to the new AUC with Depreciation Areas activated.
I don't think any of the drastic measures outlined are necessary. -
Investment order settlement rule Errror
Dear All,
While creating an Investment order, system will ask for creation of AUC asset if investment profile in assigned to the Order and creates an AUC asset with autoomatic generation of settlement rule.
But when i m trying to create the said order with investment profile attachment, and AUC creation system is not allowing me to save the order with errror as below:
Enter a distribution rule for Asset without a validity limit
Message no. KD059
Diagnosis
The settlement profile used requires you to define a distribution rule for Asset. For period 003 2011, however, you have not created a distribution rule for Asset.
Procedure
Create a distribution rule for Asset without a validity limit, because, if the distribution rule does have a validity limit, the system always issues this message in the period following the last valid period.
You can also use a different settlement profile that does not require such a distribution rule, or change the settlement rule used.
Can you pls let me know what is the cause of this error message,
Thanks & Regards,
RaviDear Ajay,
I have not manually created settlement rule as it is an Investment order to which Investment profile is assigned.
When Order is created, system will prompt for AUC creation. I have done that but when saving it is showing this error.
System will create Settlement rule automatically to this investment order, which is not happening in my case though i have assinged Investment profile.
Pls advise
thanks,
ravi -
Investment order settlement- assignment field with order number in GL code
We are settling the investment order to the concerned asset and in reco account of the concerned asset it has to update assignment field with Investment order number from which order settlement was happend.
For example I am booking all the expences to 1000 GL account code for investment order and I am settling to 2000 GL code.
Investment order number is coming in 1000 GL code in fbl3n and for 2000 asset class (Reco 2000 GL code) it it not showing IO number.
We want IO number in 2000 GL code line item.
Do the the need full. It is very urgent..........
Edited by: sudhakara reddy jakku on May 31, 2008 8:09 AMhi
when u are seeing gl line item .onse u enterd inthat screen change layout screen tab will be ther u plz see the IO filed and select that . to next saide it will give urs IO no.also -
Investement Order Settlement Rule to different cost objects repeatedly.
Dear Gurus,
I have used IM module to figure out a process using investment orders to settle fixed assets.
Details are: PO (input IO) ->GR/IR-> Settle IO monthly -> AUC -> Full Settle IO -> Fixed Asset.
However I found my design was not easy to change as business has changed. For now, if one order has been settled fully but the similar expense on AUC comes to me. I have to create a new order again and followed on to a new fixed assets.
Could I do some fix up to make it like the following:-
PO ( input IO) -> GR/IR -> Settle IO Monthly -> AUC -> Full Settle IO -> Fixed Asset. Then if similar order comes I will do Settle IO monthly -> AUC (New or the same as last one) -> Full Settle IO -> Fixed Asset ( New).
Could you please help to throw some light on this? I am also self studying the investment order further.
EmmaHi,
Till your AUC becomes a final asset, you should settle the IO periodically . So, you need not create new orders...
Once your AUC becomes final asset, then settle the IO fully, then the AUC value will move to the Final asset.
Njoly
Siva -
Investment order settled more than posted on current month.
Dear All,
I have found a stange thing that I can't explain it.
Every month end, we will settle the investment orders to AuC accounts by KO8G. At the end of Jan, I settled all of them, but I found one investment order has settled more amount than posted on Jan.
By line item display, for example, I can see the account for Inv order has 4 postings, totally $67000.00. But after KO8G, there is $90000.00 settled to the AuC account.
No error message in test run and actual post in KO8G. Settlement rule is 100% to AuC.
I am really confused about the amount settled.
Please kindly throw some light on this. Thank you.
EmmaHi,
The settlement was done monthly. There would be no un-settled amount. But that's a good tracker for the similar problem.
For my problem, I checked the Line Item one by one in KOB5. And I found 2 docs have the wrong expense account posted by the Inv order. So that's why the amount 23000 is calculated in settlement but not no shown in the right expense account by GL line item display.
I have done a posting to transfer the amount to right expense account.
Thank you.
Emma -
PM investment order settlement
Hi Experts,
While doing PM Investments order settle to AUC I am getting this error
Settlement by cost element not possible due to secondary cost element
Message no. KD553
Diagnosis
You want to settle the secondary cost element 918000 by cost element to an asset or G/L account, which is not allowed.
Procedure
Extend your allocation structure M1, so that secondary cost elements are not settled by cost element, but with a settlement cost element.
can anyone me the solution
Regards
SriHi Piet
Can you explain more ,
where shall i assigned the secondary cost element and which secondary cost element under which category
becasue in this pm order also i am doing some activity planning like labour (it is one my sec.cost element)
can you give me your suggesstion
Thanks & Regards
Sri -
Investment order settlement rule to many assets
Hello experts,
When I buy 200 similar assets in one-shot I create 200 assets with AS01 using the "number of similar assets" field.
Now my question is: does a customizing point exist in order to assign automatically those 200 assets to the internal order for settlement ?
BenoitHello,
Thanks for the answer, using this BAPI will I be able to define automatically a settlement rule in this way ?
- The order has 1.000.000u20AC value
- I created 100 assets
- Automatically generate settlement rule with 100 lines and value = 10.000u20AC / asset
The problem is the following: I buy approximately 6000 pumps a year by orders of approximately 200 pumps.
Each pump is valuated 250u20AC in FI-AA.
I create a purchase order of investment for 200 pumps and put the 50000u20AC on the internal order.
Now I need to settle those 50.000u20AC to my 200 fixed assets.
If this is possible what is the best way to achieve this ?
Regards,
Benoit -
Settlement of Investment Order - Auto creation of Sub asset for settlement
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Dear experts
Request your help on Investment orders settlement.
We are doing settlement of Investment orders to sub asset numbers, where sub assets are created well in advance.
Our client want system to create sub asset numbers automatically, while doing the settlement of Investment orders itself.
Is it possible ?, If possible, please let me know, what are the settings I need to do to meet this requirement.
Thanks in advance
S. Habib Pasha.Hiya,
Go to IMG --> Controlling --> IO --> Actual Postings --> Settlement --> Automatic Generation of Settlement Rules.
There is no SAP Standard created for settlements to sub-assets, so you'll need to create one using option 4 there "User-Defined Strategies for Automatic Generation ...".
Once this is done, get an ABAP Developer to code the settlement rule by creating a custom project in that same transaction. The rule will be similar to the SAP Standard ones created in option 1 of the same node.
Once this is done, create strategy sequences for this, and assign to Order Type(s).
If your users can maintain a basic investment profile when creating the Order Master Data, the developer can be directed to pick that data (aka fields) for the creation of the subasset number.
Hope this helps.
Cheers. -
User status for investment order to block settlement to final asset
Hi,
I try to set up a user status to avoid user to settle internal/ investment order to final asset. I cannot find a user status that will let me make the distinction between the automatic settlement to AuC and the partial or full settlement to final asset.
The process we are using is that we do automatic settlement from investment order to AuC on a weekly basis and as soon as the final asset has been entered via KOB5 (distribution of line item) we would like to setlle it.
Do you know a way to set up a user status on an internal order to allow settlement to Asset under construction but not to final asset?
Thanks
SabineHi,
I do not want to send the costs directly to final asset. Costs booked against the investment order should always first go to AuC and then to final asset. What we try to avoid is to have the 2 settlements immediately one after the other. We would like to have the settlement to AuC on a weekly basis and the other one only when capitalization is required. But if the final asset is already entered in the settlement rule of the order via KOB5, then there is a risk to settle to final asset. We would like to only run the second type of settlement only when the asset is ready to be capitalized. To be able to do that we thought about using the user status. For example, if status is "release", we could settle to Auc but not to final asset and if status is "approved", we could settle to final asset.
Do you see what I mean? I need a status that allows me to perform some transactions and another one that allows me some other business transactions. The problem is that the 2 settlements I am talking about are not recognized as business transaction but as processing type.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Sabine
Edited by: Sabine Janssen on Oct 14, 2009 10:46 AM -
AUC Settlement through Invest Order
Hi
Could please explain me how the Investment order works and the settlement of the Investment Order by step by step.
Please help me I am in need
Thanks & Regards
RamkiHi
1) Create Investment Order, with AUC master record (KO01).
2) Created budget for Investment Order (KO22).
3) Release the Investment Order in control data tab (KO02).
4) G/L Posting to Investment Order with amount 200$.(FB60)
5) AUC Settlement (KO88). (System created the settlement rule AUTO in KO02 here).
6) Created Final asset for settling from AUC (AS01).
7) Internal Order for AUC is "technically complete" so the system will perform 'full settlement' during next order settlement run.
Reg
Suresh -
Settle investment order not line by line
Hi all,
Could you please clarify how we can configure to settle investment orders in group, not line by line. Our problem is today that when we have credit notes tht should be settled to AUC we got error message that it is not possible to settle credit lines. We know that we can allow credit postings but if we instead want to settle all postings to a specific AUC in total, not line by line, how do we configure that (we have a debit total, not credit)?
BR LHi again,
No, my problem is that if we have done 3 purchases to an investment order during one month:
1. + 500
2. Credit order - 200
3. + 500
When we shoud settle this we don´t want the system to settle line by line because we then got error message that it is not possible because we have negative values though we have a total of positive.
I then want to settle the total amount of 800. How do I do?
Our error message is AA629 and I know that we can allow negative values so this settlement works with a negative post, but that is not what we want.
Our customer says that they could do this without error message before patch of system, from 6.0010 to 6.0017.
BR L -
Dear All,
How to see the settle Investment orders. We are posted 1 G.L. Transaction through FB50 which the account is linked with Investment order. When ever we settle the order through KO88. The order has been settled but the values are not changing in S_ALR_87013019. But transaction values are impacted in the (FS10N) GL account.
Why it is happening can any body help in this regards.
Thanx in advance.
Regards,
BhaskarYou are referring to S_ALR_87013019. This is Budget/Actual/Commitment.
when you settle this report will not have any impact as you are settling from one Investment order to AUC.
When you have posted the Values usign FB50 there is a change in Budget/Actual/Commitment. AT this stage there will be a change in values if you run this report.
When you settle this the same investment order is getting credited and teh amounts are transferred to AUC.
When you did the settlement, the credit also happened and hence there is no change in the values of the report.
Reward if useful.
sarma -
Order settlement not possible for investment order.
Dear All
We are doing the settlement for the order. settlement recever is order & we are getting the following error.
Account 320501 requires assignment to CO object.
Please guide me.
RegardsDear Pete
The message is as follows. Message class KI & number 235.
Text
Account & requires an assignment to a CO object
Diagnosis
You have not defined a CO account assignment for an account that is relevant to cost accounting.
System Response
Account is defined as a cost element.
This means that you must always specify a CO account assignment.
Procedure
Enter one of the following CO account assignments
Order
Cost center / cost center/ activity type
Sales order item (for a project or cost relevant)
Project / WBS element
Cost object (Process manufacturing)
Network/ Network activities
Business process
Profitability segment
Real estate object
The posting row affected is , account .
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