Invooice block for price variance
Hi
I require a block for the invoice for value more than PO value by 2Rupees. I have done the Tolerance key cuustomizing for PP (Price variance) by mainaining the upper limit as 2 Rupees and have checked the limits. I expected the system to block the invoice for value more than PO value by 2 rupees, but system blocks even for value more than 10 or 20 paise. Please clarify and guide what needs to be done.
I also beleive system does not blocks invoice for the above tolerance for extra duties and taxes and unplanned costs. Pl brief.
Regards
Arvind
hi
u have given tolerence for PP Price variance
u check following
BD Form small differences automatically
KW Var. from condition value
VP Moving average price variance
for the above keys make the option as do not chck and then try
regards
KI
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Invoice blocked for price variance or quantity variance
Dear friends,
In case if in the PO, either there is a price difference between GR and IR or a quantity difference between GR and IR, then does the invoice posted stays automatically in a "blocked" status??
If not, then can we manually do some configuration to make this possible? The intention is that such invoices(with price variance or quantity variance) should remain in blocked status and should not be picked for payment in F110 run.
Please advise asap.
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LIV tolerance for price variance from PO to LIV
Hi Friends,
I am finding difficulty in setting up the tolerance key for price variance from PO value to invoice value. Suppose if PO price is $100 then system should allow upto $105 with out blocking means with percentage of 5%. If it exceeds 5% system should block the invoice.
Please suggest the tolerance key to use and if any other settings required.
Thanks...
Best RegardsHi,
Following is the SAP help on the Tolerance settings for Invoice. Check the config and decide what is best for you (from your brief explanation it looks like AP and PP may be relevant fro your case)
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Set Tolerance Limits
In this step, you specify the tolerance limits for each tolerance key
for each company code.
When processing an invoice, the R/3 System checks each item for
variances between the invoice and the purchase order or goods receipt.
The different types of variances are defined in tolerance keys.
The system uses the following tolerance keys to check for variances:
o AN: Amount for item without order reference
If you activate the item amount check, the system checks every line
item in an invoice with no order reference against the absolute
upper limit defined.
o AP: Amount for item with order reference
If you activate the item amount check, the system checks specific
line items in an invoice with order reference against the absolute
upper limit defined. Which invoice items are checked depends on how
you configure the item amount check.
o BD: Form small differences automatically
The system checks the balance of the invoice against the absolute
upper limit defined. If the upper limit is not exceeded, the system
automatically creates a posting line called Expense/Income from
Small Differences, making the balance zero and allowing the system
to post the document.
o BR: Percentage OPUn variance (IR before GR)
The system calculates the percentage variance between the following
ratios: quantity invoiced in order price quantity units : quantity
invoiced in order units and quantity ordered in order price quantity
units : quantity ordered in order units. The system compares the
variance with the upper and lower percentage tolerance limits.
o BW: Percentage OPUn variance (GR before IR)
The system calculates the percentage variance between the following
ratios: quantity invoiced in order price quantity units: quantity
invoiced in order units and goods receipt quantity in order price
quantity units : goods receipt quantity in order units. The system
compares the variance with the upper and lower percentage limits
defined.
o DQ: Exceed amount: quantity variance
If a goods receipt has been defined for an order item and a goods
receipt has already been posted, the system multiplies the net order
price by (quantity invoiced - (total quantity delivered - total
quantity invoiced)).
If no goods receipt has been defined, the system multiplies the net
order price by (quantity invoiced - (quantity ordered - total
quantity invoiced)).
The system compares the outcome with the absolute upper and lower
limits defined.
This allows relatively high quantity variances for invoice items for
small amounts, but only small quantity variances for invoice items
for larger amounts.
You can also configure percentage limits for the quantity variance
check. In this case, the system calculates the percentage variance
from the expected quantity, irrespective of the order price, and
compares the outcome with the percentage limits configured.
The system also carries out a quantity variance check for planned
delivery costs.
o DW: Quantity variance when GR quantity = zero
If a goods receipt is defined for an order item but none has as yet
been posted, the system multiplies the net order price by (quantity
invoiced + total quantity invoiced so far).
The system then compares the outcome with the absolute upper
tolerance limit defined.
If you have not maintained tolerance key DW for your company code,
the system blocks an invoice for which no goods receipt has been
posted yet. If you want to prevent this block, then set the
tolerance limits for your company code for tolerance key DW to Do
not check.
o KW: Variance from condition value
The system calculates the amount by which each delivery costs item
varies from the product of quantity invoiced * planned delivery
costs/ planned quantity. It compares the variance with the upper and
lower limits defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o LA: Amount of blanket purchase order
The system determines the number of days by which the invoice is
outside the planned time interval. If the posting date of the
invoice is before the validity period, the system calculates the
number of days between the posting date and the start of the
validity period. If the posting date of the invoice is after the
validity period, the system calculates the number of days between
the posting date and the end of the validity period. The system
compares the number of days with the with the absolute upper limit
defined.
o PP: Price variance
The system determines by how much each invoice item varies from the
product of quantity invoiced * order price. It then compares the
variance with the upper and lower limits defined (absolute limits
and percentage limits).
When posting a subsequent debit/credit, the system first checks if a
price check has been defined for subsequent debits/credits. If so,
the system calculates the difference between (value of subsequent
debit/credit + value invoiced so far) / quantity invoiced so far *
quantity to be debited/credited and the product of the quantity to
be debited/credited * order price and compares this with the upper
and lower tolerance limits (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o PS: Price variance: estimated price
If the price in an order item is marked as an estimated price, for
this item, the system calculates the difference between the invoice
value and the product of quantity invoiced * order price and
compares the variance with the upper and lower tolerance limits
defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
When posting a subsequent debit/credit, the system first checks
whether a price check has been defined for subsequent
debits/credits, If so, the system calculates the difference between
(value of subsequent debit/credit + value invoiced so far) /
quantity invoiced so far * quantity to be debited/credited and the
product quantity to be debited/credited * order price. It then
compares the variance with the upper and lower tolerance limits
defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o ST: Date variance (value x days)
The system calculates for each item the product of amount *
(scheduled delivery date - date invoice entered) and compares this
product with the absolute upper limit defined. This allows
relatively high schedule variances for invoice items for small
amounts, but only small schedule variances for invoice items for
large amounts.
o VP: Moving average price variance
When a stock posting line is created as a result of an invoice item,
the system calculates the new moving average price that results from
the posting. It compares the percentage variance of the new moving
average price to the old price using the percentage tolerance limits
defined.
Variances are allowed within predefined tolerance limits. If a variance
exceeds a tolerance limit, however, the system issues a message
informing the user. If an upper limit (except with BD and VP) is
exceeded, the invoice is blocked for payment when you post it. You must
then release the invoice in a separate step. If the tolerance limit for
BD is breached, the system cannot post the invoice.
Note that if you set all limits for a tolerance key to Do not check, the
system does not check that tolerance limit. Therefore any variance would
be accepted. This does not make sense particularly in the case of the
tolerance key Form small differences automatically.
Activities
Configure the tolerance limits for the individual tolerance keys.
Lower limit Upper limit
Absolute Percentage Absolute Percentage
AN - - X -
AP - - X -
BD X - X -
BR - X - X
BW - X - X
DQ - - X -
DW - - X -
KW X X X X
LA - - X X
LD X - X -
PP X X X X
PS X X X X
ST - - X -
VP - X - X
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Best Regards,
Siva -
Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance when PO-based Purch.Requisition
We must garanty that Price from Purch.Requisition will be the same at PO.
IF some variance occur a error messag must be sent to user and PO could not be saved.
I found at customzing under SPRO > Materials Management > Purchasing > Purch.requisition > Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance .
Reading the help of customizing it mean the system consists what we need..
I have created tolerance limit NB, and set limits for all checks as 0,01.
When I will activate messages as recommended on help no messages 601 and 602 have the text that guide us to correctly setting.
The help mention that after create tolerance limit we must set this tolerance by document type..but I didnt find this field at customzing
Does anyone can help me ?
See the help on customizing below
Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance
In this step, you can define percentage-based and value-based (absolute) tolerance limits for price variances between purchase orders and purchase requisitions. Variance types are mapped out in the SAP system by tolerance keys.
You define the tolerance limits for each tolerance key and assign your tolerance key to the document types for purchase requisitions. The tolerance limit then applies for all documents of this document type.
When processing a purchase order, the system checks whether the unit price of a purchase order item differs from the unit price of a purchase requisition item. If you have configured, activated and defined tolerance limits in document types, variances are permitted in the tolerance limits. If the variance exceeds the tolerance limit, the system issues a warning. If you have defined a percentage-based and a value-based absolute tolerance limit, the strictest of the two variances will apply for this check.
Note
You can determine whether the system messages (601 and 602) appear as warnings or error messages in step "Define Attributes of System Messages".
To do this, go to the Materials Management IMG and choose Purchasing -> Environment Data -> Define Attributes of System Messages.
Requirements
The tolerance key must be defined in step Define Tolerance Key.
Activities
1. Define tolerance limits for each tolerance key.
2. Define the tolerance key in step Define Document Types.
Thx and best regards,
AleHI
SET TOLERANCE LIMITS FOR PURCHASE REQUISITION UNDER THE DEFINE DOCUMENTS FOR PR
AFTER SETTING TOLERANCE LIMITS WHILE CREATING PURCHASE U WILL GET BASED ON TOLERANCE LIMITS THERE FOUR WAYS TO SET TOLERANCE LITS
1
ABSOLUTE VALUE
2
PERCANTAGE
3
TOTAL PO VALUE
4
QUANITY BASED PRICE PER UNIT
OK BYE -
Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance for PR missing from SPRO
I'm looking into setting up tolerance limits for price variance at the PR level. But when i navigate here:
SPRO > Materials Management > Purchasing > Purch.requisition > Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance
I'm not seeing that available in SPRO. It's available for PO's but not PR's. We want to be able to set tolerances on the PR to be applied to the PO for non stock items (material master). Please adviseHi,
There is no standard configuration option to set the tolerance limit at PR level. You may set the tolerance limit for PO and control the price change. If you want the same functionality at PR level, then you have to go for development. Please check whether the BAdI: ME_PROCESS_REQ_CUST can fulfill your requirement. You may set the tolerance limit in OLME - PO - Set Tolerance Limits for Price Variance itself and write the logic in the BAdI to check the price variance in PR based on the same configuration (table T169G and similar).
You may check the similar thread: PR VS PO Price Tolerance
Regards,
AKPT -
Hi,
What non FI datasource in RSA5 can i find the line item for Price Variance?
ThanksHi Sam,
I think 0CO_OM_CCA_9 will word best for me.
what does it mean by: Actual Costs Using Delta Extraction ?
Also would the field REFBN Reference Dosument Number have the invoice number & the PO Number?
Thanks -
Tolerance Limit for Price Variance (Purchase Order)
Hello,
Business Case :
Final users require a specific tolerance limit rate for Price variance in Freight services POs.
We have a current rate set up at Company level
--> standard customizing (MM / Purchasing / Purchase order / Set tolerance limit for Price variance)
Do you know any way to set up diffferent tolerance limit depending on the purchasing flow ? Vendor level for example ?
thanks for your time.
regards,Thanks for your reply.
What do you mean by "syestem look for noramal quantity variance from info record" ?
P.I.R only conatins under and over delivery tolerance, but nothing related to price variance between GR and Invoice.
I'm looking for a customizing in order to have a Tolerance limit for Price variance at another level than Company.
At vendor level for example ?
Do you confirm there is no standard customizing ?
Any user exit available ?
thanks
regards -
MRBR: PO blocked for price but per PO, price match invoice?
Hello SAP Gurus-
I am puzzled. I have an invoice blocked due to pricing but the invoice matches at QTY and price to the PO. I checked the PO and the invoice for changes and found none. What could be the problem?
THanks!Thank you-
The block is R for invoice verification. The reason for the block via MRBR is price. There is no price variance which is why I am concerned. We never had this issue before and we have been live on SAP for 2 yrs.
I have checked OMR6 and OMR9. Not coming up with anything.
As I mentioned, the invoice matches the PO in quantity and price. -
Standard Report for Price Variance
Dear Friends,
Business is asking for the Price Varinace Report in standard SAP based on following criteriau2019s
The requirement is to have a report which provide :
· Purchase price variance u2013 PO V/s Invoice which is posted to General ledger.
· By Vendor ( both third Party & Intercompany) with Vendor number and name.
· By Material code & Material description and Material class
· By Purchase order
· For a given month or Year to date.
· By GL code where the purchase price ( PO v/s invoice) is posted.
Is there any standard report available for this in SAP or is it should be customised, if so is it complex...
Please suggest me on the same
Thank you for your promt reply
Radhika EluriHi Santosh,
I could not find the related reports for the same which i can show to the user.
Could you please give me what are those reports available(Even they are not completed) so that i can provide the same to business.
If they are not satisfied with them, then we will go for developemnt
Thank you
Radhika Eluri -
Variances accounts - for Price variances
Hi,
I have a problem with deciding how many Price variance Accounts I should create.
There are 3 Production divisions and there are 3 types of PP orders.
Each PP order can create Finished Goods or SemiFinished Goods.
Should I create separate variance account for Finished Goods and separate variance account for Semi Finished Goods?
How can I assign these variances account (for settlement) to an order type, if one order type can do both FG and SFG. Maybe the PP order types should be divided into FG and SFG - so that there would be 6 PP order types?
What can you suggest me?
Best wishes,
KarolHi Karol
Create two production variance accounts for FG and SFG. These should not be created as cost elements and should have PRD PRF as account determination. You dont have to create as many variance accounts for each PP orde type
Create one more variance account - called Variances in production as cost element.
Order crated for a material and depending on the material type and valuation class assigned to material, different accounts will be hit
You assign PRD PRF for FG and SFG material valuation classes
Hope the above clarifies. Please assign points -
Tolerance Check for Price Variance is not working
Hello,
In SRM 5.0 IMS we have configured a tolerance group with tolerance Key PP to allow Price Variance while Invoice entry.
We have assigned this tolerance group to the user via attribute TOG in the organizational structure (Transaction Code: PPOMA_BBP)
The user to whom this tolerance group is assigned is logged on into the system and created an invoice in the system with the higher amount as compare to the PO. This difference of price is very well within the tolerance limit configured in the system, but still it gives the following errors:
Average price too high: Tolerance limit of 0.00 and USD exceeded (Item 1)
Value too high (tolerance limit of 0.00 and USD exceeded) (Item 1)
Its not checking the tolerance limit assigned to the user through tolerance group.
But the same works when we assign this to vendor group, but this we don't want.
We want the system to check the tolerance group assigned to the user.
Please suggest the solution to reslove the above errors.
Thanks
SarabjeetHi,
Priority of tolerances is PO tolerance limit, TOG tolerance grp. for User, TOG tolerance grp. for Vendor (if user not logged on). Even absolute tolerance limit always has priority over percentage limit.
In your case, you need to check PO tolerance first then TOG for user.
regards,
rahul -
Purchase Order - tolerance key SE for price variance
Dear folks,
In the purchase order config for tolerance limit, there is a setting for tolerance key SE.
The SAP help defines that this limit is triggered with system message no. 231. This is a warning message, which appears when the specified cash discount percentage exceeds the predefined tolerances.
Can anyone advice me where do I specify which cash discount or what discounts will trigger this warning messages?
Also, is it comparing the discount % against the % in the config or against the discount value from the PO price?
Best Regards
JunwenDear Folks,
To clarify, I meant how do I trigger this tolerance limit SE?
Which discounts will trigger this limit?
If I add new discounts or delivery conditions like Freight, will it be subjected to this check?
This setting is set in the SPRO in Purchase Orders setting together with the tolerance key PE. PE will be triggered in the purchase order when the price in the PO is lower or higher than the tolerance limit when compared to the material price.
Thus, I think SE will be triggered in the PO also, but how?
Best Regards
Junwen
Edited by: Junwen Huang on Jun 11, 2008 10:12 AM -
PO Tolerance Limit for Price Variance
All,
For the key PE I have set Upper Limit for Percentage Check Limit to 0.01%. At what point is the tolerance limit check? Is it at PO creation or some other point?
Thanks,
SeanThe related error message appears at the time of PO creation. It will prevent you from creating the PO with a price that is ourside the allowed tolerance value
PE tolerance limits defines the allowed variation in price between the PO price and that of material price stored in the material master as standard price. The standard price is the output of the standard costing process -
Workflow - Invoice Blocked for Price Reason / Qty Reason
Hi Ramki / Workflow Gurus,
Has anyone worked with Workflows WS20000397 and Workflow for Qty Reason ?
Please advise me about Agent Determination. I want to workitem to Cost Center Manager.
Warm Regards.
PrasHi Pras,
I have not worked with WS20000397 but Agent Determination should be no different from any other workflow. Depending on how a user is identified as a Cost Center Manager, you can probably create a custom rule or use any available tool (evaluation path?).
BTW, workflow in now included in the Business Process Management (BPM)forum.
Can you send me your email address? Mine can be found on my business card.
Cheers,
Ramki Maley. -
Invoice Block due to price variance
Dear Friends,
In invoice verification I have configured invoice block for price variance (PP).
I have mentioned upper limit as 5%.
PO---100
GRN---100
Invoice---120
I have made this as warning message. I want this should not be open for payment before releasing in MRBR. After posting the document in MIRO it shows that invoice is blocked for payment. The payment bock indicator in payment tab in MIRO shows as "R"--Invoice verificatin.
But system allows this document for payment to be done both in f-58 & f-53.
So please tell me how to stop payment to be done before releasing it in MRBR.
Regards
R PandaHi
I think you may be missing some settings in FI, thats the reason it is allowing to pay the invoice whcih are blocked for payment.
Please check with your FI consultant
Thanks & Regards
Kishore
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