IO Budget Carryforward

Hi,
Can someone pls help me understand this....
In KO23;
Initial budget was EUR 415,000.00 on FY2007.
Actual cost on CIP was EUR 308,213.25 on FY2008.
Negative amount was posted EUR -308,213.25 on FY2009 (from Disposal FA-Proceeds).
When budget was carried forward to FY 2010, EUR 106,786.75 was carry forwarded.
Is this correct?
I think the negative amount should have been added as well and carry forwarded total EUR 415,000.00 to FY10.
Thank you,
NH

Can someone PLEASE answer this?
Regds,
NH

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When you say they have to perform year end activities like checking PO and PR, what actually they are doing? Do they just need to check whether those PO or PR are required (if not, close them) or they need to do something more? . As far as I know, no steps like checking PO and PR are required here. So I am wondering whether we have missed anything or not. Can you give me some details about that step?
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I need to manage a Program structure with Internal Order, for actual and Budget values (Investment management).
I have created my Program structure with Internal Order.
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Hi Caforio Claudio,
Pls check if you have (If the Investment Measure is Internal Order)
You performed the commitment carryforward for measures belonging to the investment program - KOCF
You performed the budget carryforward for measures belonging to the investment program - KOCO
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Dear All!
we are little bit confused regarding the closing procedure of Funds Managment ( BCS).
I'm writing the following scenerio that may I able to understant every one!
I entered the Budget $100 and Released $ 40. When I execute the transaction FMRP_RW_BUDGET for budget overview, system display the following Information:
Current Budget : 100 , original budget : 100 and by executing the FMRP_RW_BUDCON transaction. system display the following information
Consulabale budget: 40 Consumed Budget: 0 Avilabale Budget : 40 and Current Budget: 100.
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further, in what cases the transaction FMMC-close open item is being used?
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Hi MSiddique,
We are a governmental entity. We use FMMC to close out prior year obligations (encumbrances - i.e. purchase orders, purchase requisitions) that will not get carried forward into the next fiscal year.
For the encumbrances that remain open and will get carried forward to the next fiscal year, we use FMJ2.
So for instance if we have 100 original and 100 current in starting out in FY06, and we have an existing purchase order for 20 and 35 was already expended (i.e. invoiced and paid), the consumed would be 55 and the available would be 45. At the beginning of FY07, only the existing encumbrances that we didn't close using FMMC will be carried forward along with the related budget of 20 using FMJ2. If 45 wasn't used it would not get carried forward (unless it involves a multi year capital project)
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Current 100
Encumbered 20
Expended 35
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Available 45
After the carry forward to FY07 would look like this
Original 130 (new approved budget for the new year-not related to FY06)
Carryforward 20
Current 150
Encumbered 20
Expended 0
Consumed 20
Available 130
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All P.O.s identified not to roll forward gets closed - FMMC
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I have the following scenerio.
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Released Budget(2010)-100
PO commitment(2010) - 20
Actual (2010)- 30
Assigned Budget(2010)-50
Available budget(2010)-50
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Regards.
Vishal

Hi ,
Thanks a lot for the answer.
I am able to carryforward budget now.
I found that CJCO, takes forward, Commitment + Rem. Ord Plan + Available budget
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Hi Den,
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Further information is available at
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/96/248f38661fca77e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
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Please guide me how to do commitment item carryforward.
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T code : CJCF - Carry Forward Commitment
Parameters: - Carrying Forward Commitments
To carry forward a commitment to the first period of the following fiscal year, proceed as follows:
Choose Accounting ® Controlling ® Cost Center Accounting ® Year-end closing ® Commitment carried forward.
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SAP help : - Year-End Closing Reports
The reports on year-end closing give you an overview of the closing operations (commitment carryforward and budget carryforward) with fiscal year change.
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·        Commitments and budget carried forward (RFFMEP1GX)
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·        Commitment carried forward in a test run (RFFMEP2GX)
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There is no availability control during the budget carryforward.
For help you can use the following link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/86/98853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 2:40 PM
Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 4:54 PM

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As per your request you want to know the transaction to carryforward COMMITMENT BUDGET.
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If you are using Former Budget and you want to carryforward commitment budget, you should ONLY run the following steps:
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Carrying Forward Budget to the New Year (RFFMCF30).
Note that you can only carry forward commitment if the definitions made in the default settings for the year-end operations of Customizing for Funds Management Government allow this. For more information, see the IMG of Funds Management Government, section Enter Default Settings. Using program RFFMCFM1 Monitor Closing Operations, you can get an overview of the current Customizing settings.
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If you are using the function Revenues Increasing the Budget (distribution procedure), you must use the corresponding program to execute the budget increase. For more information, see Increasing the Budget in help.com.
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You must define the parameters used for the commitment carryforward. Budget changes in the previous year and/or the following year depend on whether you use the statistics indicator for the commitment carryforward.
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You can find more information in help.sap.com in the menu:
Public Sector Management -> Funds Management -> Closing Operations -> Budget. There you have
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Budget Control System (BCS) and
Former Budgeting
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