IOS 5 backup to iOS 6?

Hi all
I decided to sell my 4S early to get a good price prior to the 5 being announced. I was one of the lucky ones that got in early so a shiny new phone should be with me next week.
Of course this means I have a backup on my mac from the current version of iOS 5, the new phone will ship with iOS 6 so I am wondering if there will be any way to use that backup to restore my new phone? If not would it be possible to downgrade from retail iOS 6 to iOS 5.x.x so I can use the backup?
I guess some of this will be guesswork as we don't know what iOS 6 full release will allow but any previous experience or advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Neil

When you get your new phone, you'll be prompted to setup as new or restore from backup. Select the backup from your 4S, then sync your iTunes content to your new phone. That's all you have to do. It will work just fine.

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