IOS 8.0 and 8.0.2 cannot send pictures using mms

So both on my wifes 6 and on my 5s I cannot send a MMS picture correctly anymore. Here is what steps I am using. I know there are other ways that do work but this is my usual way
---hit camera
---click on pictures in lower left
---hit the box with the up arrow
---have picture(s) selected with blue check
---click message
---put in who to
---type in msg
Now before upgrading, the picture was in the body of the message. Now after upgrade it just doesn't show up at all.
Anyone else have this issue?
I have tried to back up the device and then do a full restore to no avail.
Thanks
Adam

Having the same problem with a 4s and 5s.  Loaded 8.0.2 and lost that capability.  My wife sends lots of snapshots so she is really frustrated, and when Mama's not happy, ...

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